Am I setting my self up for a disaster?

Tropicalfishking

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Have any of you actually kept these fish regularly? I have; they're native to my region. Adult dollars will often eat rainbow darters.
Sometimes they ignore them, but if even one goes after one the others will start eating them too.
You may not have any issues if you raise the dollars with them from juvies, since sunfish can become too lazy or unaccustomed to hunt, but I personally wouldn't take any chances with them together if I paid for them.

I hope it works out for you and not trying to be negative. I'm just being honest with my experience.
hmm... maybe I will re-think the Dollar sunfish then. Do you think that an adult Dollar could eat an adult Rainbow?
 

ShadowBass

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I think they could. I dunno about your rainbow darters, but they don't get very big around here as adults. 1.5-2" on average, 3 inches is a substantial fish. I have a bunch of them in my 90g, and they're tiny guys, albeit adults, because the males were colored up for spawning when I caught them. One of my 2+ inch shadow bass just ate one yesterday. Took him forever to get it down but he did it.
Even if the darter seems too big to eat they might try. I catch dollars on small lures and minnows that are far too big for them to swallow. When I had them they'd go after minnows meant for my largemouth that were too big for them. They just tear them up and eat pieces if they can't get them down. If you have several dollars, or most other sunfish for that matter, if one gets a hold of something too big the others will try to get it and they'll end up tearing it to pieces and sharing it. If they get into a feeding frenzy they'll essentially try eat anything any of the others have.
Several sunfish together is actually a common tactic to get the to eat. If a few eat something the others usually will. So your problem is if even one decides darters are food the others likely will.

Now, like I said, I catch them for free, and they eat each other in the wild, so I don't mind if some fish eat others. But I'd certainly be more cautious if I paid for them and had to have them shipped.
 

Tropicalfishking

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I think they could. I dunno about your rainbow darters, but they don't get very big around here as adults. 1.5-2" on average, 3 inches is a substantial fish. I have a bunch of them in my 90g, and they're tiny guys, albeit adults, because the males were colored up for spawning when I caught them. One of my 2+ inch shadow bass just ate one yesterday. Took him forever to get it down but he did it.
Even if the darter seems too big to eat they might try. I catch dollars on small lures and minnows that are far too big for them to swallow. When I had them they'd go after minnows meant for my largemouth that were too big for them. They just tear them up and eat pieces if they can't get them down. If you have several dollars, or most other sunfish for that matter, if one gets a hold of something too big the others will try to get it and they'll end up tearing it to pieces and sharing it. If they get into a feeding frenzy they'll essentially try eat anything any of the others have.
Several sunfish together is actually a common tactic to get the to eat. If a few eat something the others usually will. So your problem is if even one decides darters are food the others likely will.

Now, like I said, I catch them for free, and they eat each other in the wild, so I don't mind if some fish eat others. But I'd certainly be more cautious if I paid for them and had to have them shipped.
Maybe I will just make this into the Rainbow Darter/Least Darter/Blue Fin Killifish tank. These Darters are cool little fish. Fun to watch eat.
 

ShadowBass

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Hey, the 2nd pic looks like a limpet. They make GREAT glass cleaners.
 

ShadowBass

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Leave 'em. They're wonderful algae eaters and you're lucky to have 'em. A lot of people want them but never end up with them. I never ended up with any freshwater ones, though I had them in my saltwater tanks. Saltwater people will pay money for them. They mow through certain algaes like nothing else.

They'll hitchike in on plants and anything else. Since they're flat and clear they're hard to see until you notice them on the glass.
There are some beautiful saltwater varieties, but the freshwater are mainly just clear or brown.
 

Tropicalfishking

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ShadowBass

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Nice.

They're probably so light btw because of the sand. I have mine on black substrate and they're not faded like that.

You don't need to change the substrate per se, but adding more dark colored plants and decorations would probably help.
 
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