No offense, but i have major doubts as far as your abilities are concerned... if you think the main reason they dont survive is because they crash into walls i really have doubts. If you are going to use the tide for water changes then what if there is an issue with water quality mid tide? what about source water quality? are you prepared to test for, and adjust D.O.? What about disease considerations? do you have any idea what ailments a blue shark may come down with? what about temperature control? do you have the means to employ a vet and possibly a staff memeber to assist? what about the feeding issues of these species? And then there is the legality of this whole mess of a plan.
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which one? is there possible metal contamination as a result of this missile test site?
again if this floods, how are you logistically going to filter/heat/cool the water? what about incclimate weather?
I am not sure if you are a noob or troll. Your 3 posts all in a row in this few thread is throwing me off. In short this is a very big and deep pond with a lot of water volume. This is not a 12 gallon nano. It will hold tempeture fine.
There are already native fish living in the pond so the water isn't toxic. saying of missile is going to contaminate this time it's like saying the titanic is going to contaminate the ocean.
The shark is comming from water that is less then a 100 yards from its native water. With the same water. All the fish it going to live with come from the same water. If its immune system is able to defend against the parasites, bacteria and fungus in the wild it will be able to defend it in the pond.
What is an example of an issue which will take place at high tide? Oil rigs from huntington beach break and spill oil everywhere? if this happens I'll take it as an act of God and beyond my control.
Like i said its a native pond. Its like havinf a pond or lake with perch, bass, sunfish and sturgeon. Are you going to put a heater on it. I dive the lake often surface temp never got above 75 degrees. Highest tempeture at the the thermoclime is 66.
Your rant just you repeating yourself about crap you worry about on overstock tropical nano tank. Not a understock native pond/lake.
There are already native fish living in the pond so the water isn't toxic. saying of missile is going to contaminate this time it's like saying the titanic is going to contaminate the ocean.
The shark is comming from water that is less then a 100 yards from its native water. With the same water. All the fish it going to live with come from the same water. If its immune system is able to defend against the parasites, bacteria and fungus in the wild it will be able to defend it in the pond.
What is an example of an issue which will take place at high tide? Oil rigs from huntington beach break and spill oil everywhere? if this happens I'll take it as an act of God and beyond my control.
Like i said its a native pond. Its like havinf a pond or lake with perch, bass, sunfish and sturgeon. Are you going to put a heater on it. I dive the lake often surface temp never got above 75 degrees. Highest tempeture at the the thermoclime is 66.
Your rant just you repeating yourself about crap you worry about on overstock tropical nano tank. Not a understock native pond/lake.
If you are set on it, you'll have to look into permitting etc... to collect and keep your livestock. Being a 'naturally' occuring body of water, you'll have to check on regulation in CA for what you're doing. I know they are very strict with things like this, especially if there is the chance it goes under and can 'cross contaminate' back into the ocean.
I still have doubt. The Blue shark is a very active open water swimmer. It's not one of the sharks I'd consider trying. I'd stick to smaller species that have a proven track record under human care, then move up from there after a few years of shark keeping.
Enlcosed bodies of water (even large ones) are very different that open ocean when it comes to parasite / bacteria outbreaks. Don't let the volume fool you into thinking the immune system of the animal will be enough if something sneaks in. Water being toxic to fish vs sharks is also different. Sharks are very sensative to certain things (like trace metal) that won't impact typcial fish species at all.
Have you done an preliminary testing of things like disolved oxygen levels during various times of the year? They can fall off very quickly, even on a large volume like this, and a blue shark needs VERY high DO levels.
I still have doubt. The Blue shark is a very active open water swimmer. It's not one of the sharks I'd consider trying. I'd stick to smaller species that have a proven track record under human care, then move up from there after a few years of shark keeping.
Enlcosed bodies of water (even large ones) are very different that open ocean when it comes to parasite / bacteria outbreaks. Don't let the volume fool you into thinking the immune system of the animal will be enough if something sneaks in. Water being toxic to fish vs sharks is also different. Sharks are very sensative to certain things (like trace metal) that won't impact typcial fish species at all.
Have you done an preliminary testing of things like disolved oxygen levels during various times of the year? They can fall off very quickly, even on a large volume like this, and a blue shark needs VERY high DO levels.
Can't blue sharks get huge as in big enough to be a threat to the rest of the sharks? I wouldn't feel comfortable putting any open ocean shark in it as it is, the rest sounds like all good ideas. If you don't plan on obtaining permits I would drop this idea altogether, especially since your posting about it online and it can be traced back to you
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I dont plan on adding the apex predators for another year. I know they are fish in the pond but not a strong population.
I am going to start by adding shrimp, clams, smelt, anchovies, senoritas and kelp.
A few months lateer I will add rock fish and perch.
Then I will add kelp bass and yellow tails.
Then the stingrays and barracudas.
Then the sharks. I am very flexable with my plans and if the blue shark doesn't fit in my set up it doesn't fit. My ultimate plan is to have speciation occur and have a species of fish named after me.
not a new person to the aquarium/zoological field at all, in fact, I have 10x your experience. All the above questions are legitimate and must be addressed if you are taking this proposition seriously and your lack of enthusiam is concerning. even if other fish seem to be thriving in the pond, ensuring there is not a metal contamination issue is very important. Elasmobranchs are sensitive to nickel, copper, and several other metals that teleosts do not have any issues with at low levels.
same with low levels of D.O.
but what is most concerning is your a
same with low levels of D.O.
but what is most concerning is your a
Catalina Island is very corrupt especially Avalon. I should have no problem obtaining permits. I can also take my boat into international water's. Maybe I will just stick with the horns and leopard sharks. I still have a while till I get them. I am working my way up the food chain.
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