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you think is bad quality if is made in china ? Turn iphone around and read where is made :) it's the same thing.
 

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you think is bad quality if is made in china ? Turn iphone around and read where is made :) it's the same thing.
No,

I think it's possible to get good quality products out of China. My concern was that the comments on the Internet about Eheim filters having issues with leaks, cracks, and general failures seem to coincide with the move to China for production. Your manufacturing is only as good as the quality controls you put in place and the deal you make with your manufacturer.
 

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That's a very honest response from eheim.

I agree about maintenance. Neglecting an eheim will cause problems the same as anything else. I clean my sunsuns monthly, clean the impellers and lube the orings every cleaning. No problems with them and they are "supposed" to be the epitome of Chinese junk lol.
 

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No problems with them and they are "supposed" to be the epitome of Chinese junk lol.
I remembered when I was a kid and Japanese made products were considered junk. How times have changed.
 

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People only have leaks because they don't change oring's. My friend was cursing on his eheim filter. I asked him when is last time you change o ring. He replyed: around 4 years.... Are u kiding me lool. His floor was destroyed.
People just don't change replacement part's as often they should. Impeler, o-ring, hose, valve, those are part's that you need to have them at home. I'm always playing safe. It's good to sleep well. :)
And broken plastic.... Plastic only broke by force never alone.
 

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Bottom line is any filter can fail. Maintaining them reduces those chances. Not much to fail though impellers on the top where it belongs...

Read some of harley k threads how long his eheim classics lasted. When i was getting back into the hobby i read the same about eheim BUT most of those stories werent about the classics it was the other models
 

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To be honest, if you clean the oring and the seat for the oring on the canister, dry it off, and put an even light coat of silicone grease on it - it's not unreasonable for the oring to last several years, leak free.

But that you know takes like 3 minutes. Who's gonna do that
 

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It's true. Eheim sell silicone spray and silicone grease. They recomend using them. It's writen on instruction manual.
 

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Canister will not crack by itself. If you drop it or something its your fail. Eheim is defenetly number 1 on market
I just read 5 reviews from Amazon about the Sunsun Canister filter, where the canister just cracked straight down the side for no apparent reason. Th Sunsun obviously is not the Eheim, but it just goes to show that plastic is plastic. It can crack.
 

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I just read 5 reviews from Amazon about the Sunsun Canister filter, where the canister just cracked straight down the side for no apparent reason. Th Sunsun obviously is not the Eheim, but it just goes to show that plastic is plastic. It can crack.
And I'm sure it does happen. But we don't know why it happened. For instance - There's dozens of reviews of canister filters on amazon where people put an empty dry canister under the tank, plug it in, it has no water in it, doesn't prime, and it's a "piece of junk" common sense isn't common.

The sunsuns are made of cheaper plastic. You have to take that into account and handle them accordingly. Who knows if it was just a manufacturing defect. Maybe the owner overloaded the baskets and jammed them in like a big dumb gorilla, maybe they went 11 months without cleaning it and the thing imploded under negative pressure.

Who knows. I take amazon reviews with a grain of salt. Most satisfied people don't feel the need to post a review. Usually it's angry dumb people who paid $50 for something and are upset it's not an fx6.
 
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