I have been really holding back on this one becuz i know a thread will not help and may just make me mader. I was stupid enough to buy from him posted under wfhs1631 anyone with a reputation for rays should not have to change his user name. What ever happenend to "why buy from anyone else when u can buy from the best" this is what he put on his user name or something simular anyway.This is also a guy that spoke for the stingray symposium! I feel really sorry for the ones that spent more than me but what i spent was enough this is really a hobby for pepole with bigger pockets than me never in my life did i ever think i would spend this kind of money on fish and to send a check and recieve nothing really makes me boil.Karma is a ***** Mike u will get yours!