Elementary my friend ,you just need to up the antes to the point of being almost insane in the eyes of a novice fishkeeper ,i understand your frustation my friend also in a way had that imcomplete feeling, always on the look out for that next one to fill the void ,it was until he went to a public aquarium in Asia that he realizes what he needed to do ,bear in mind this is not for someone just out of high school or even college if you are not settled,he first got himself a house , although not an expensive one then proceed to build a 5000 g + right in the middle of his living room just for one special fish ,a Pirarucu,well the last time i saw him he was sitting on the floor cross legged in front of the aquarium with a stupid grin on his face , saying something like , Hey bro u will never know what i went thru , but look at the end result ,i just wowed with a tinge of envy while saying I kno iknow ...
Where does it end, will I ever be satisfied?
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Elementary my friend ,you just need to up the antes to the point of being almost insane in the eyes of a novice fishkeeper ,i understand your frustation my friend also in a way had that imcomplete feeling, always on the look out for that next one to fill the void ,it was until he went to a public aquarium in Asia that he realizes what he needed to do ,bear in mind this is not for someone just out of high school or even college if you are not settled,he first got himself a house , although not an expensive one then proceed to build a 5000 g + right in the middle of his living room just for one special fish ,a Pirarucu,well the last time i saw him he was sitting on the floor cross legged in front of the aquarium with a stupid grin on his face , saying something like , Hey bro u will never know what i went thru , but look at the end result ,i just wowed with a tinge of envy while saying I kno iknow ...
The point here is ,yes you can be over satisfied with one fish and one tank if you know what you like unfortunately some of us never get there
Well I plan to get 2 10 ft. display tanks and 1 6 ft display tank. I want one african tank one south american tank and the third I'm juggling between brackish and discus in my mind. I might just do my typical thing and plant some brackish fish in fresh tanks to consolidate and have it all (plus I hate working with salt) In display tanks alone my basement will have over 2,000 gallons. Then the breeding projects in the fish room will be another 1,000 gallons not counting sump filter volume. My water bill will explode! I might have to get a well!!! 
@mshill90 you where right a 120watt UV filter won't cover the 4,000 gph of flow, that only effects algae for killing bacteria and other such threats I would need about 400 watts to cover the intended 4,000 gph flow from the pump. Thats 40 dollars a month to run plus the 30 for the pump.... 
Trying to discern if it will be worth it. Don't know how long bulbs last because that would require 3-3bulb filters at the very least. That would mean 9 bulbs to replace however often... thats 70 dollars per bulb conservatively speaking its about 800 per interval to replace bulbs.... holly cow! It will cost almost 2,000 dollars annually(assuming thats how often you swap bulbs) to run that. 
Trying to discern if it will be worth it. Don't know how long bulbs last because that would require 3-3bulb filters at the very least. That would mean 9 bulbs to replace however often... thats 70 dollars per bulb conservatively speaking its about 800 per interval to replace bulbs.... holly cow! It will cost almost 2,000 dollars annually(assuming thats how often you swap bulbs) to run that. @mshill90 you where right a 120watt UV filter won't cover the 4,000 gph of flow, that only effects algae for killing bacteria and other such threats I would need about 400 watts to cover the intended 4,000 gph flow from the pump. Thats 40 dollars a month to run plus the 30 for the pump....
UV lights when run at flow for sterilization last 1 yr. And like I said, when you do individual filters you will not need a UV.
I run over 24 AC's, plus eheim heaters, plus 2 large ES2500 pond pumps, and a laguna sub pump... I also run 2 UV's inside the koi tank, and a UV on the koi QT.. my electric bill is $350. The bulbs for UV cost me not even $200 a year.
But, like I said.. check out what happened to Hans Discus, and you may think twice about adding all of your tanks together.
I don't think you understood my experience. I had separate filters and 11 tanks. The infection spread by siphon hose. Upon researching how to fight bacterial and viral infections (I had something to that affect) My research revealed that the only effective treatment was UV. Even on a by tank basis it would still need uv to treat since salinity raising and anti biotics seem to be either to slow or to do as much harm as good. felt like I was always to steps behind it. I'm looking to prevent another such outbreak I can deal with most parasites no problem but bacterial and viral infections are a different kinda problem for me. If you know of a effective blanket treatment for them by all means I'd rather do that but I can't find one that isn't a huge compromise. I did the separate tank thing and that only isolates parasites. I can handle parasites. I can remove 99 percent of them in quarantine pretty reliably and treat either per fish or easily the entire system on a cost effective basis for parasites. I'm afraid of and try to figure out how to deal with the boggie man that is the evasive and promiscuous bacteria/viral infections that love jumping tanks. I see your perspective, but your solution already failed me. I'm at a loss for a solution that is feasible. I'm sure something will be out there I just don't know what it is.
Potassium Permanganate will kill everything. And you it's fish safe to an extent.
True, that actually might work out well in a large setup the treatment per 100 gallons is reasonable its a relatively cheap chemical(crystal) to buy and if I have it setup on a super sump where I can set it to do automatic 30-50 percent water changes daily in place of keeping bio filtration in then it could work really well. On individual tanks even the ones I have now I can't physically change the water on more than 300 gallons of tank a day(just not enough time after a day of work). That is why keeping bio filtration in tact was so important but realizing on a super sump with a automatic water change in place I can use that in place of bio filtration during a treatment period. And I could actually afford to treat with this stuff. This is a great revelation. Thanks so much. Will also save allot on UV filtration.
A HUGE bottle of it is $50.. It's the only size I can find. 9 grams does 1500 gallons. haha.
I love how it also doesn't have a shelf life so I can buy it and have it on hand for immediate treatement. Between this and epson salt I'll be covered.
