How big do these guys really get and what is the best way to sex them at 4''?
Paratheraps syn size and sex
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Anyone know how big vieja synspilum get and if you can sex them at 4''? I beleive they are now paratheraps, or are they considered vieja still?
As far as I know, they are Vieja. As for sexing, I have yet to find out a significant way of sexing any of the Vieja. I have all of the Vieja's and they are about 6", and I cant find any differences that will lead me to make a good determination.
Thanks. Do you know the true size of a full grown adult? I have seen on the web anywhere from 9''-17'' TL.
Here is a pic. The shredded tail is from some red bay snooks at the LFS. This guy/girl is in a much more peaceful place now
Thats what I would say. I dont think that I have ever seen an Argentea, Blackbelt, Synsphilus, Regani, over 12". Vent is the only way. I am switching all my Vieja and Paratheraps to a larger tank, and as I catch them I am going to vent them. Cause I have no idea.
That is a nice looking Syns.
Good luck.
Full-grown synspilum can easily reach lengths of over 12". I've seen some monsters at 15"-16" on MFK.
i have personally owned a 14" male(took 3 years to get that size) from my experience most males have more of a square shaped head and females have a more torpedo shape(not 100% though)and the male top and bottom fins ate usually more pointed and the female are kinda rounded.
when i get home from work i will post pics of my males and females(easier to tell the difference side by side,a little more difficult with single fish)
when i get home from work i will post pics of my males and females(easier to tell the difference side by side,a little more difficult with single fish)
Males tend to get a hump on their heads, be more colorful, longer fin extensions, and act like males
It takes them awhile to mature but like Buddha says, they can get every bit of 14" (or bigger) given the right conditions / time.
P. synspilum is now considered a junior synonym of P. melanurus...so they scientists now call them P. melanurus.
McMahan, Caleb D.; 2011; "Paraneetroplus synspilus is a junior synonym of Paraneetroplus melanurus (Teleostei: Cichlidae)"; Zootaxa; (n. 2833), pp. 1-14 (crc03297)
Here's the abstract of the paper (from Cichlid Room Companion): http://www.cichlidae.com/library/abstract.php?id=3297
Matt
It takes them awhile to mature but like Buddha says, they can get every bit of 14" (or bigger) given the right conditions / time.
P. synspilum is now considered a junior synonym of P. melanurus...so they scientists now call them P. melanurus.
McMahan, Caleb D.; 2011; "Paraneetroplus synspilus is a junior synonym of Paraneetroplus melanurus (Teleostei: Cichlidae)"; Zootaxa; (n. 2833), pp. 1-14 (crc03297)
Here's the abstract of the paper (from Cichlid Room Companion): http://www.cichlidae.com/library/abstract.php?id=3297
Matt
Thanks for all the info everyone I am hoping this fish will heal, and get to its full potential. I have had this fish for a day and the colors are already getting better.
I am hoping this fish will heal, and get to its full potential. I have had this fish for a day and the colors are already getting better.