EBJD parasites, treat whole tank?

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well its all speculation right rd. Salt bath is not the cure all but can assit or aid it monitored properly..
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Typically when a fish stops eating, becomes reclusive, and begins excreting white jelly like feces (part of which is the lining of their intestine), there is little speculation involved. Internal parasites are almost always the cause, in which case adding sodium chloride (salt) is counter productive, and will add even more stress to the fish. It will not cure the fish, nor will it assist in recovery, it can actually make matters much worse for a fish that is already in severe stress.

Just trying to help ......
 
again these are idea's that can help assist the op and different people have different experiences with different fish and at different stages. I 've know many breeder who sell and distribute ebjd and I also collect and breed them and I have had success with this formula. So again different opinion's. By the way another help ful link..

http://dempsey.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=155
 
again these are idea's that can help assist the op and different people have different experiences with different fish and at different stages.
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Bad advice is bad advice, I don't care how many times it's repeated on the interweb by those who have zero background in disease & treatment of finfish. My comments are not just based on personal opinion, or personal experience, but are based on the professional opinion of those who are considered experts in this field. A couple of experts that come to mind would be Dr. Ruth Francis Floyd, from the Florida State University, and Dr. Edward Noga, from the North Carolina State University.

You can find the credentials of both below;

Ruth Francis-Floyd, DVM, MS
Professor Aquatic Animal Health Program Director
Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences
Large Animal Clinical Sciences
Certified Fish Pathologist, American Fisheries Society, 1989
Diplomate, American College of Zoological Medicine, 1998


Edward J. Noga, MS, DVM, is Professor of Aquatic Medicine (College of Veterinary Medicine) and Adjunct Professor of Zoology (College of Agriculture and Life Science) at North Carolina State University, in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Adjunct Professor of Marine Science (Center for Marine Science) at the University of North Carolina in Wilmington, North Carolina.


Both have been published in peer reviewed journals numerous times, and Edward Noga has one of the most comprehensive books published on the subject of fish disease, diagnosis, & treatment that I think one can find, at least in North America. Neither of the above experts recommend salt (sodium chloride) baths, or adding salt to the aquarium water of a fish that is suffering from spironucleus/hexamita. What they do recommend is treating said fish with metronidazole, and/or treating orally with magnesium sulfate. (epsom salt)

This isn't some kind of pissing contest oriqua, but unless you can direct me to where an actual expert on this subject has recommended adding sodium chloride to a fishes tank water, or treated in a salt bath, when a fish appears to be suffering from an outbreak of internal flagellates that are residing in their gastrointestinal tract, and in advanced cases have possibly already travelled to one or more internal organs, I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your armchair advice.

The OP can draw their own conclusions as to how best to proceed with their fish.
 
RD. said:
Bad advice is bad advice, I don't care how many times it's repeated on the interweb by those who have zero background in disease & treatment of finfish. My comments are not just based on personal opinion, or personal experience, but are based on the professional opinion of those who are considered experts in this field. A couple of experts that come to mind would be Dr. Ruth Francis Floyd, from the Florida State University, and Dr. Edward Noga, from the North Carolina State University.

You can find the credentials of both below;

Ruth Francis-Floyd, DVM, MS
Professor Aquatic Animal Health Program Director
Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences
Large Animal Clinical Sciences
Certified Fish Pathologist, American Fisheries Society, 1989
Diplomate, American College of Zoological Medicine, 1998


Edward J. Noga, MS, DVM, is Professor of Aquatic Medicine (College of Veterinary Medicine) and Adjunct Professor of Zoology (College of Agriculture and Life Science) at North Carolina State University, in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Adjunct Professor of Marine Science (Center for Marine Science) at the University of North Carolina in Wilmington, North Carolina.


Both have been published in peer reviewed journals numerous times, and Edward Noga has one of the most comprehensive books published on the subject of fish disease, diagnosis, & treatment that I think one can find, at least in North America. Neither of the above experts recommend salt (sodium chloride) baths, or adding salt to the aquarium water of a fish that is suffering from spironucleus/hexamita. What they do recommend is treating said fish with metronidazole, and/or treating orally with magnesium sulfate. (epsom salt)

This isn't some kind of pissing contest oriqua, but unless you can direct me to where an actual expert on this subject has recommended adding sodium chloride to a fishes tank water, or treated in a salt bath, when a fish appears to be suffering from an outbreak of internal flagellates that are residing in their gastrointestinal tract, and in advanced cases have possibly already travelled to one or more internal organs, I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your armchair advice.

The OP can draw their own conclusions as to how best to proceed with their fish.
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your right and Im wrong mr fish dr expert...again my armchair advice doesnt come close to your biology thesis you wrote out.

AGAIN TO OP hope your fish makes it.
 
aclockworkorange said:
Yeah, let's criticize our members who go the extra mile for doing that. :confused:
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bro if your going to bat for your mfk buddy its all good I didnt start with the critism I simply put suggestion
people need to relax and stop being so critical again different strokes for different folks.
THE person is throwing a bunch of material that he read great but maybe they should ask questions before critising
 
oriqua said:
bro if your going to bat for your mfk buddy its all good I didnt start with the critism I simply put suggestion
people need to relax and stop being so critical again different strokes for different folks.
THE person is throwing a bunch of material that he read great but maybe they should ask questions before critising
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I'm probably "buddies" with a good number of long time active MFK users, so I guess I can't post on any thread now with an argument? It's completely irrelevant anyway, a member gave good advice with research to back it up and you're upset for whatever reason. Check the ego and let's get the fish healthy again.
 
aclockworkorange said:
I'm probably "buddies" with a good number of long time active MFK users, so I guess I can't post on any thread now with an argument? It's completely irrelevant anyway, a member gave good advice with research to back it up and you're upset for whatever reason. Check the ego and let's get the fish healthy again.
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:nilly: got you all frazzled... Relax your heads gonna explode to op hope your fish recoveries well.
 
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