Heard this at my local LFS, is it true.

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Frozen food being better than pellets? OKAY.

As stated, beefheart has been used in the hobby for a long time and continues to be used for bulking up skinny fish and periodic supplementing. Lambs are a little leaner than beef so it might be better.

Frozen foods are nutritionally wholesome, whereas proceeded food are more inclusive. So yes, Frozen is better than pellets for certain reasons. A few years back, this forum had a big interest in making fish food from locally available ingredients. Looks like the mentality has changed...

I always recommend a stable diet of quality pellets and/or flakes and supplementing with frozen/ freeze dried/ fresh foods. This ensures that your fish will get lab tested nutrition through the fortified diet of pellets/flakes and receive a variety of natural nutrition from the later.

In terms of fish food, none is better than another and either is better than none.
 
Lamb heart should be fine. I give my service dog beef heart and the fish always get a little bit too. They are a part of the family and I wouldn't give it to them if I didn't feel it was safe. The grinding in a mortar breaks down the fibers so that the fish can consume and digest it more easily. Kind of the whole reason that mammals chew. So whats this about making fish food with locally sourced products? That sounds great. Can you elaborate more such as good ingredients to use? I already farm my own feeder fish, worms, etc and I would feel so much better feeding my fish a food that I knew exactly what was going in there rather than trusting someone making fish food with profit as their main goal.

As stated, beefheart has been used in the hobby for a long time and continues to be used for bulking up skinny fish and periodic supplementing. Lambs are a little leaner than beef so it might be better.

Frozen foods are nutritionally wholesome, whereas proceeded food are more inclusive. So yes, Frozen is better than pellets for certain reasons. A few years back, this forum had a big interest in making fish food from locally available ingredients. Looks like the mentality has changed...

I always recommend a stable diet of quality pellets and/or flakes and supplementing with frozen/ freeze dried/ fresh foods. This ensures that your fish will get lab tested nutrition through the fortified diet of pellets/flakes and receive a variety of natural nutrition from the later.

In terms of fish food, none is better than another and either is better than none.
 
if it is 10-20 years ago, frozen is better than pellet! but now high quality pellet have vitamin and stuff that you have to feed a tons of frozen and live food to get the same amount in a little amount of pellet plus all the fat and unnecessary stuff in frozen and live!
 
As stated, beefheart has been used in the hobby for a long time and continues to be used for bulking up skinny fish and periodic supplementing. Lambs are a little leaner than beef so it might be better.

Frozen foods are nutritionally wholesome, whereas proceeded food are more inclusive. So yes, Frozen is better than pellets for certain reasons. A few years back, this forum had a big interest in making fish food from locally available ingredients. Looks like the mentality has changed...

I always recommend a stable diet of quality pellets and/or flakes and supplementing with frozen/ freeze dried/ fresh foods. This ensures that your fish will get lab tested nutrition through the fortified diet of pellets/flakes and receive a variety of natural nutrition from the later.

In terms of fish food, none is better than another and either is better than none.

No..
 
I do not think that is a good idea.
It would take for ever to put that food together so you may as well just buy some pre made colour enhancers such as hikari, blood worms, etc.
 
Aparently freezing lambs heart, then crushing it with a pestal and mortar then re freezing it into small cubes and feeding to your fish enhances colour. Just wanted some expert advice as my local lfs are idiots.

I agree, your lfs employess are idiots. There is nothing in beef heart, or lambs heart, that will enhance the color of a fish. These types of foods are used to promote rapid (IMO unhealthy) growth, nothing more, nothing less.

Last month someone was asking about feeding chicken hearts to their fish, below was my response.


Fish aren't hard wired to assimilate the fatty acids found in beef, chicken, etc anymore than they are hard wired to assimilate large amounts of carbs. These excess lipids get stored in & around the organs, and eventually shorten the fishes lifespan. Can these foodstuffs offer amino acids, and solid growth, yes, no question about that, but that doesn't qualify them as being a good source of food for a fish.

Even a lot of the major discus keepers have moved away from beefheart over the past decade, for these exact reasons. It's a great food for breeders that simply want quick growth in their juvie fish (so they can take them to market quicker) but it is most certainly not an ideal long term diet. Lee Newman, Curator of Tropical Waters at the Vancouver Public Aquarium has spoken out against feeding beefheart many times, for the same reason as I do, it tends to lead to fatty degeneration of the liver.

Dr. Peter Burgess MSc, Ph.D.,of the Aquarium Advisory Service in England, is not only an experienced aquarium hobbyist, but also a scientist that specializes in the health & disease in fish. He has written over 300 articles and five books on fish health and is a visiting lecturer in Aquarium Sciences and Conservation at Plymouth University, where he works with the University of Plymouth training students in scientific research. Among his other positions, Dr. Burgess is a senior consultant to the Mars FishCare business and regularly runs fish health & husbandry courses for aquarists, fish scientists and vets. He's also a regular contributor & Fish Health consultant for the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine, as well as other magazines devoted to the fish keeping hobby.

Below is an excerpt from the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine titled;

Liver Damage and Red Meats,


"The routine of feeding beef heart and other red meats to Cichlids can ultimately give rise to health problems. Poultry meat is also suspect. Red meats, including lean meats such as beef heart, contain the wrong sorts of fats - these harden within the cold-blooded fish, leading to blockages and fatty deposits around the liver.

Also, the relative proportions of amino acids within the mammalian proteins are different to those required by fish. Hence, feeding red meats will cause the cichlid to excrete more nitrogenous (ammonia) wastes, thereby placing an extra burden on the biological filter."

HTH
 

Care to elaborate? Your post is a bit... lacking.

Feeding beef heart should be seen as SUPPLEMENTING and not a STAPLE diet. Yes you can argue that the beef heart has no place in a fishes diet but that's ultimately up to the fish keeper to decide. This item is similar to wax worms and reptiles, its helpful but also complicated.


@ docturtle91b
There should be some threads that come up when you search for "homemade food" but heres the gist of it.

-fresh or frozen market prawn, clams, tilapia, ect. from the grocery store, sanitized for safe fish use. Add spirilina,garlic and several other ingredients from health food stores then use a plain gelatin binder to hold it together.
 
I feed the terror in my avatar hikari cichlid gold pellets and live crickets. He sometimes eats my pleco's algea wafers also. I dont think you can get anymore color out of this fish so I would say to feed it a varied diet like they would eat naturally. The healthier the fish, the more color, right?
 
Care to elaborate? Your post is a bit... lacking.

Feeding beef heart should be seen as SUPPLEMENTING and not a STAPLE diet. Yes you can argue that the beef heart has no place in a fishes diet but that's ultimately up to the fish keeper to decide. This item is similar to wax worms and reptiles, its helpful but also complicated.

Hmm. You contradict yourself in post #11. You said frozen foods are better than pellets then go around and recommend fish should be fed pellets and frozen foods as a supplement. Honestly, I'm no good at explaining why pellets are a better choice than frozen foods. RD. has commented on many threads stating the facts on why pellets are better.
 
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