Heard this at my local LFS, is it true.

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WeeNe858 said:
I stated that frozen foods are better in certain cases such as weaning off live or bulking up for example. I also stood by my recommendation of a staple diet of pellets and supplementing with other foodstuff throughout my replies. Not sure where you're getting my contradictory from....

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Frozen foods are nutritionally wholesome, whereas proceeded food are more inclusive. So yes, Frozen is better than pellets for certain reasons. A few years back, this forum had a big interest in making fish food from locally available ingredients. Looks like the mentality has changed...

I always recommend a stable diet of quality pellets and/or flakes and supplementing with frozen/ freeze dried/ fresh foods. This ensures that your fish will get lab tested nutrition through the fortified diet of pellets/flakes and receive a variety of natural nutrition from the later.
 
Don't want to repeat whats already been said, but yeah, i agree with water, and have seen some recipes that looked pretty decent which would have possibly worked for finicky fish...

Plus, i think i remember some one even added pellets to their recipe for a more balanced diet...

Although personally i'm too lazy to make my own which is why i choose pellets w/ frozen foods...
 
Water said:
Frozen foods are nutritionally wholesome, whereas proceeded food are more inclusive. So yes, Frozen is better than pellets for certain reasons. A few years back, this forum had a big interest in making fish food from locally available ingredients. Looks like the mentality has changed...

I always recommend a stable diet of quality pellets and/or flakes and supplementing with frozen/ freeze dried/ fresh foods. This ensures that your fish will get lab tested nutrition through the fortified diet of pellets/flakes and receive a variety of natural nutrition from the later.
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I said those reasons were for weaning and bulking up. Never did I outright say frozen food was better than pellets.

Learn to comprehend and quit trolling.
 
Inland Empire Discus makes a beef heart flake that is around 40% beef heart and has a good vitamin and mineral profile (unlike other so called BH flakes that barely contain any BH). I feed this along with NLS and blackworms and my discuss are growing quite fast. It is a good option if you want to feed beefheart without the mess in the tank and kitchen
 
There is no need to feed beefheart to Discus, or any other fish. Oivay!

The Discus shown below were raised on an exclusive diet of NLS pellets.


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RD. said:
There is no need to feed beefheart to Discus, or any other fish. Oivay!

The Discus shown below were raised on an exclusive diet of NLS pellets.
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yes we get it, NLS is the best and everything else sucks. I don't think anyone said anything about BH being necessary to raise discus. Good or bad, top breeders, importers, exporters and hobbiest supplement their discus diet with some mammal protein. You won't find many discus at a NADA event that was not grown out on some beefheart or ground beef. Its a tradition and gets results. I use super beefheart flake, NLS and blackworms to grow out my discus
 
I don't think anyone said anything about BH being necessary to raise discus.
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Then why even recommend BH? I also never said that everything else sucks, I simply provided some information as to why one should never feed beefheart, or any mammal meat to a fish, period. Unfortunately, you don't get it.

Good or bad, top breeders, importers, exporters and hobbiest supplement their discus diet with some mammal protein. You won't find many discus at a NADA event that was not grown out on some beefheart or ground beef. Its a tradition and gets results.
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Yes, I already stated that BH will cause fast gains in growth in Discus - but there is a downside to those fast gains in growth - it's called premature death. If that doesn't concern you then feel free to feed away. Most breeders, exporters, or importers don't care how long a fish lives, they care about how quickly they can gain size in their discus so that they can make a faster turnover in the fish. They are financially motivated to get fast growth. It is this exact mentality that has for the most part ruined most discus strains, designer fish, with designer price tags, that are genetically inferior to anything found in the wild. Fish that have never consumed mammal meat of any kind.

My comments in this discussion were for the OP, who hopefully read all of the comments posted here & will make their own informed decision, instead of basing their decision on what some mental midget at the LFS told them.
 
Mammal flesh is perfectly fine as a supplement and occasional treat in my opinion. My bullhead catfish used to get thawed pinky mice on occasion. Additionally, I've caught two bullheads over my life that already had a mammal in their stomach. One had a mole and the other was some kind of small rodent but was too deteriorated to make a 100% id but I was leaning toward hispid cotton rat.
 
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