120 Gallon High Aquarium Setup and Questions

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aclockworkorange said:
Also please stop lumping Central American and South American cichlids... Very vague and very different fish for the most part. The distance from Mexico to Brazil is about twice the distance as from Los Angeles to New York...


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Its not just me...it's just about everyone else in this hobby and all the fish stores and information sites.


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Yeah yeah, aclockworkorange, we can all see you're very smart and scientific. Bolivian rams are very easy to keep alive and can tolerate low 70s temperature. I have done it for years. And on the other end of things, roselines can be kept at higher temperatures. My kid brother has kept his close to 80 with no problems.

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Just speaking from my experience of caring for hundreds of both species (actually multiple species of rams) at wholesale and keeping wild caught denisonii at home. A lot of the denisonii you see for sale now are captive bred and can tolerate a wide range of temperature. Mine were wild caught and cost $25 a pop at the time when they were relatively new to the hobby. Same goes for rams, captive bred will be easier to keep. Tiger barbs should tolerate lower temps just fine, quite a hardy fish.
I have seen MANY people fail with rams. Maybe they like your water, but I wouldn't say they're easy to keep.


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aclockworkorange said:
Just speaking from my experience of caring for hundreds of both species at wholesale and keeping wild caught denisonii at home. A lot of the denisonii you see for sale now are captive bred and can tolerate a wide range of temperature. Mine were wild caught and cost $25 a pop at the time when they were relatively new to the hobby. Same goes for rams, captive bred will be easier to keep. Tiger barbs should tolerate lower temps just fine, quite a hardy fish.
I have seen MANY people fail with rams. Maybe they like your water, but I wouldn't say they're easy to keep.


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I agree when it comes to German blue and electric blue rams, when I had those, it took a little more care and attention to keep them healthy, but the Bolivian rams I have had no trouble whatsoever. Chances are that a beginner won't be getting wild caught fish so I feel safe assuming they will be the easier captive breds.

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jshep105 said:
Well honestly I wish you could've told me this before I started stocking the tank. I asked around on three different sites asking if the stock would work and everyone said yes. As of now I only have (6) Tiger Barbs and (6) Roseline Barbs. Right now the temp is 73-74. I have three tanks and got into this hobby a few years back but just started back up 6 months ago. I wouldn't actually call myself a new hobbyist but whatever floats your boat. I would really appreciate you giving me some advice on what I should do next, and any stocking ideas that you have. Thanks in advance.


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Not saying it can't work. Just giving information. Feel free to private message me in the future. Good luck!


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everlastace said:
I agree when it comes to German blue and electric blue rams, when I had those, it took a little more care and attention to keep them healthy, but the Bolivian rams I have had no trouble whatsoever. Chances are that a beginner won't be getting wild caught fish so I feel safe assuming they will be the easier captive breds.

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Really just depends... The mix locally is about 50/50 and often they're not labeled and sometimes the LFS doesn't even know.


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everlastace said:
Good plan. Research every fish before buying.

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Good advice. If I had a dollar for everytime someone posted a thread about a fish they just bought without doing research I'd be set for life. ;)
That's really half the fun. Hell, if you like take it a step further and set up a biotope of a specific area of the world (as specific as you want). Learn the habitat, pick out species that live there together, get a slice of nature in your home. That's most of the fun for me at this point--learning new stuff.


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