There are ven orinos, but the cichla stone is selling aren't orinos. He only said "sp. Vens".
The bass on their website is 100% orino. Granted, they are different then the flood of Rio Metas we've been seeing.
Yes, the bottom picture is a Ven Orino. But the top picture isn't. To be honest, i really hope they are ven orinos. I bought a couple of them when Rapps got them in back in 08.
What makes you say that? IMO, the body shape, blunt snout, and circular occeli are very indicative of orino.
These are the bass I got back in 08. Stones Cichla sp. Vens, orinos or not, I'm still going to chance it.
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