770 Gallon Filtration
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Johnny boy! The fish hoarder/fish killer.
Hmmm, you were also in the ethics thread. I'm seeing a pattern here.
I realize you got baited into joining that thread...I honestly felt bad for you. You had no business in an ethics thread because you have none. The way you keep fish is disgusting.
How many fish have you killed over the past 2 years? Why would I take any advice from you? Go back to your Death Row thread and "look at me everybody, I bought another fish that I can't keep." I have asked you several times what you planned to do with 3 Queensland Grouper and you have still not responded. Were you going to cram it into your "huge" 600G with all your other huge fish? Ironically, it's actually a good thing you killed them before they even hit 6" because they would have suffered in your care otherwise.
You post pictures of your new fish in buckets and containers and ignore the requests for a full tank shot because the fish look better in the little bucket than in your disgusting tanks.
Can I add all the pictures of the dead fish you've killed over the past 2 years to your Death Row thread? I'm not sure if that would be against the rules...you posted them up originally, so I don't see why it would be against any rules to remind people of all the fish you have killed.
You are right though, my filter sucks. So does my tank. You win.
I think it's the way you handle criticism of your setup that makes people not like you. I tried to point out (what I believe) are flaws in your sump design and you respond by insulting me, saying I don't know what I'm talking about and calling me a girl. John and a few other people here think your design could be improved too and you've tried to imply that you're smarter than all of them and their tanks must be over crowded death traps for their fish. Not everyone is going to be like you and have a 770 G and put little barbs and raspboras in there. It doesn't mean they're overstocked either.
There's been some good advice given here, like the filter sock holders idea. And jlnguyen's point that the way your filter sock is tilted will make a hole in the side of your filter sock is also a good point. But it's like you don't take any of it seriously and think you have the perfect design.
With comments like this, who would take you seriously?
It's obvious you don't understand sumps. Not all sumps are 'wet/drys'. Just because it's a sump doesn't mean it has to operate with exposed media and water trickling over it. Are you next going to tell reefers their sump sucks because they're full of sand and algae? The media aldiaz has is meant to be used in a submerged state. If you're basing all your criticism on the floating bio balls then you need to look at the bigger picture.
And lastly, this is not a new idea. Sumps with submerged media have been around for years. Look at some of the older famous threads on here (like the ones by PhullTank). You'll see lots of tanks with sumps that have no barriers, no dividers, no drip trays and no bio balls. Just a ton of submerged ceramic media.
I already agreed I can make it look better. Hopefully one day it will look as nice as yours...but please post a picture so I can see how it's done.
But adding more bio is pointless. My ammo is 0, Nitrites are 0 and Nitrates are 10. Is there such thing as having negative Ammonia or Nitrites? I don't think so. That's what a filter should do right Ammo>Nitrites > Nitrates? My parameters are ideal and I don't need to do 80% water changes every 3 days because I am not grossly overstocked like John.
Thanks for the ideas with the XP3's...I'll just scrap the sump, throw my heaters into the tank so that they actually start working and call it a day. Thanks for the feedback!
Everytime I ask Johnny about his stock and how he plans to filter it he says something about a horse...I don't get it?
I want to know how to set up proper filtration for about 1,500lbs of full grown fish living in a couple 600 Gallon tanks. I know my filter works for my setup, but he seems to lose a lot of fish, so I'm curious why he thinks I'm the one that needs help.
If his parameters ate 0, 0, and 10ppm I still cannot see how this sump is poorly designed as it is doing a fine job of its intended task. Your idea of chucking the matrix in the tank [although probably not a serious one] is ridiculous as there would be far less flow through the substrate than in its current location in the sump. Obviously there are things that could be done to improve the design of the sump, but only on a theoretical level as his water parameters clearly show that the sump doesn't NEED any improvement. While the bioballs and matala mats aren't working at maximum efficiency they are still providing surface area for bacteria to grow on (and obviously there is more than enough surface area given the water parameters) so they are certainly more than just "decoration".
Obviously a sump like this probably wouldn't be enough for your crazy over-stocked tanks, but then again what would be when those fish get close to their maximum size. Maybe I missed it as I don't thoroughly browse these forums, but I'd be interested to see how you filter your tanks so I can use some of those ideas designing the sump for my 450g..
What I've learned from this thread...
A horse is a horse of course...Unless you lead it water...Err...Something like that. Nay!
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A horse is a horse of course...Unless you lead it water...Err...Something like that. Nay!
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There is no holy grail- he does 80% water changes every other day in order to keep his nitrates below toxic levels. This doesn't work for him, as he seems to be able to keep the larger fish for 1 or 2 years before they croak. These fish are capable of living decades, so 1, 2 or even 5 year mortality is a failure. When I get home I can post up pictures of all the fish he's killed over the past 2 years...it's actually a very impressive kill list...quite sad.
His "holy grail" if you can call it that is his water change routine...I admire his ability to keep up with that (he spends about 10 to 12 hours per week changing water on his tanks), but he has absolutely no choice because his Nitrates spike like the stock market during the tech boom without them. His fish would live for an even shorter period of time if he skipped out on a scheduled change.
The reason I know so much is because I wondered the same thing, so I have read his threads...I feel bad for his fish and I think it's a poor example of how fish should be "kept." I think John is a nice guy, but his fish keeping practices are atrocious and the worst aspect of this is that he has a groupie like following that tries to emulate him. They cheer him along every time he posts pictures of his new Albino Pacus, Wels Catfish, etc and if anyone asks what he plans to do with these fish once they get bigger, they get drowned out by him and all his groupies. But outside of his threads, common sense prevails. What he does is not sustainable and that's why he has to buy so many new fish, to replace all those that he's killed.
I interject because I think he left his computer to pull dead fish out of his tank and/or this thread reminded him that he should probably do a water change on one of his disgustingly overstocked tanks so it might be a while before he's back.
Or perhaps he's looking for that horse he's always talking about.
Better not try emulate that system then, we're on rain water at our new place and the water tank would be empty in a matter of weeks over summer!!
I know people keep aquaria for all sorts of different reasons, some are into breeding, some like watching predators feed, I guess some are caught up in the pokemon phenomenom (gotta catch em all!), and for me its all about having a slice of nature in my home, so over-stocked tanks with no substrate or decor have little appeal to me. Different strokes for different folks is fine, but regardless, if you're suffering regular fatalities and having to do 80% water changes just to keep your fish alive you're doing it wrong IMO. I'd hate to think what would happen to those fish if he suddenly dropped dead, I make sure my wife knows how to feed and water change my tanks so if something like that happens I know the fish are going to be alright....
I know people keep aquaria for all sorts of different reasons, some are into breeding, some like watching predators feed, I guess some are caught up in the pokemon phenomenom (gotta catch em all!), and for me its all about having a slice of nature in my home, so over-stocked tanks with no substrate or decor have little appeal to me. Different strokes for different folks is fine, but regardless, if you're suffering regular fatalities and having to do 80% water changes just to keep your fish alive you're doing it wrong IMO. I'd hate to think what would happen to those fish if he suddenly dropped dead, I make sure my wife knows how to feed and water change my tanks so if something like that happens I know the fish are going to be alright....
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