Difference between Rtg,banjar ,green arowana
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Too many common name making me get mixed up.
I've seen people say Yellow tail come from Banjar masin. I've also seen people say Banjar Red come from Banjar masin. The hybrid is the G1.5 Red, right? I've seen people calling Banjar Red, G1.5 Red. I've seen people calling G1.5 Red, the Yellow tail. People should just stick to scientific name.
Too many common name making me get mixed up.
that i agreed .... so mixed up with lot of names
my first impression was 1.5 red = banjar but then i learned that 1.5 is a hybrid between red x banjar/green
abt yellow tail, i used to i mixed up n confused coz some ppl saying its green or banjar for example the thread bro nithin posted IDENTIFY-PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!... some ppl would say its yellow tail becoz it got yellowish tint and some others would say yellow tail is actually banjar ... but i concluded on my own that yellow tail is a green.
in indo theres also aro named as 'banjar kuning' aka yellow banjar. but i believed that yellow banjar is actually a hybrid of banjar x green or just a low grade of banjar (again its my own perception)
rather than so mixed up with names .... i rather stick to common names like banjar and green.
I believe Yellow tail is a natural species because scientist describe Scleropages macrocephalus as the yellow tail silver Asian Aro.
But could you describe to me what a Banjar Red should look like? With all these common names and different views, I'm starting to lose reference of what a Banjar Red looks like.
Banjar owner dragon_tamer - MFK
This particular banjar red is a really good example for 'my banjar red version' (what a banjar red supposed to look like) :
- There are prominent greenish markings through the whole body (in indo , we call it horse shoe marking, some sr/rtg could had the marking also but particularly around back part of the body near the anal and dorsal fins and not as striking as banjar or green)
- There are straight black/grey markings around the anal , dorsal and caudal fins
- Head shape is more like rounded bullet type (now through selection breeding, the head shape can be even similar to super red) and have brownish lips color
- The red fin color can be as striking as a super red when juvenile, as it grows up the color would fade away to orangy or just yellow
But now through selection breeding techniques, farmers managed to get rid some of the native features of banjar red and making it more and more alike super red.
Examples :
Banjar red G1-export quality - Indodragon
Noticed how the color fins can even match a juve super red and the black/grey marking in the fins is also gone ? That grown banjar red have almost invisible horse shoe green marking and quite staggering redness for that size. The head also more and more alike super red, i'm not surprise if i found a spoon head banjar red.
Here's another some example banjar red pics Banjar red
From your description, it reminds me of the 1.5 Red. Banjar Red and 1.5 Red are starting to look similar now. Too much selective and cross breeding is making things more confusing. My friend's Banjar Red, dorsal,caudal and anal fin are red. When it got to 20", the red started turning into yellow. What's your thoughts on this? Some sort of hybrid?Banjar owner dragon_tamer - MFK
This particular banjar red is a really good example for 'my banjar red version' (what a banjar red supposed to look like) :
- There are prominent greenish markings through the whole body (in indo , we call it horse shoe marking, some sr/rtg could had the marking also but particularly around back part of the body near the anal and dorsal fins and not as striking as banjar or green)
- There are straight black/grey markings around the anal , dorsal and caudal fins
- Head shape is more like rounded bullet type (now through selection breeding, the head shape can be even similar to super red) and have brownish lips color
- The red fin color can be as striking as a super red when juvenile, as it grows up the color would fade away to orangy or just yellow
But now through selection breeding techniques, farmers managed to get rid some of the native features of banjar red and making it more and more alike super red.
Examples :
Banjar red G1-export quality - Indodragon
Noticed how the color fins can even match a juve super red and the black/grey marking in the fins is also gone ? That grown banjar red have almost invisible horse shoe green marking and quite staggering redness for that size. The head also more and more alike super red, i'm not surprise if i found a spoon head banjar red.
Here's another some example banjar red pics Banjar red
Imperial banjar at 14"
Its all really confusing. All I know is my juveniles have yellow tails when I it this guy as a juvi he had a bit of yellow on his tail. But others in his batch had red as well
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Its all really confusing. All I know is my juveniles have yellow tails when I it this guy as a juvi he had a bit of yellow on his tail. But others in his batch had red as well
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True ... from what i've seen here in MFK and maybe the same as your friend have an excellent banjar red, when it got 18-20" the redness started to washed out.
I cant deny that most banjar red is hybrid , i believe the tendency was already occurred back to arowanas trend back in the mid 90s. At the first maybe they were trying to boost super red stock but because super red is the hardest to bred, some farmers tried to cross super red with others like banjar red, rtg and maybe even green. Along the way, they realized the banjar red quality through crossed bred could be taken to another level then after next 2-3 generation, banjar red can be seen as it is nowadays.
Now a bit brain storming ...
i and my friends once debated that the root of all strains of asian arowanas was super red.
whats your thought abt this ?
