Cuban has a mouth issue

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E_americanus said:
to the OP - sorry for your loss, and wish i had gotten to the post sooner. when CBGs go south it is often best to just get them to a different container and control water quality daily and with high aeration and pH-buffering substrate. hope you're able to take on the CBG again in the future--
--solomon
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Thanks. To be honest, I'm ashamed and Imbarassed that this even happened. I am fairly new at gar but have been keeping fish for nearly 20years. My FLG have me a false sense of ease with these fish. Although I'm a little devastated with this loss, I have kept and bred many more water quality prone fish over the years with great success. I will try to obtain another CBG and be diligent in their keeping.
 
WOW!!!!! I'm so sorry for your lost
 
E_americanus said:
as Madding was alluding to, most of the info in the quoted post is incorrect. not sure how long you have kept Cubans for, but they are not hardy fish relative to other gar species or other species that the OP mentioned in his earlier posting. they are very sensitive to water instabilities, and ammotox will of course do them in. this is evidenced by that species faster decline relative to the other fishes in that tank.

EDIT: further, not sure what you meant by "relevancy of his post"...because other than comparison to other species your comment would be meaningless.

to the OP - sorry for your loss, and wish i had gotten to the post sooner. when CBGs go south it is often best to just get them to a different container and control water quality daily and with high aeration and pH-buffering substrate. hope you're able to take on the CBG again in the future--
--solomon
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Lol nevermind. Compare the Cuban to his other inhabitants, tell me which is more hardy. Either way he lost him so can we stop the knit picking?


Op it happens to us all, brush urself off.



Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
Sorry for your loss.. not sure if you did or have.. but if your PH/KH/GH are on the low end adding crushed coral to your filtration and/or in the tank will help buffer it... imo the ammonia spike wasn't likly the main problem. Ive had ammonia spikes in my tank more then once and my cuban handles it just fine. from what i understand its hardness and ph swings that are the most disaterous for these fish ( we are on a well with liquid rocks... horrible for all our SA species, but our cuban is in heaven). btw they are absolutely worth the pain! GL with your next one. Think African cichlid... ;)
 
F1 VET said:
Lol nevermind. Compare the Cuban to his other inhabitants, tell me which is more hardy. Either way he lost him so can we stop the knit picking?


Op it happens to us all, brush urself off.



Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
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well, you can't argue with a person who got his doctoral degree and the respect of many people through researching gars about gar problem!
and it do happen to all of us, but this still an expensive fish. It is best to be very careful next time!
 
Leebtattoos said:
Our tap water is 7.8-8.0 and holds thst without buffering. Are y'all saying it should be higher?
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A buffering substrate is nice to have in the event that the pH/KH/GH swing due to something going wrong (ammonia spike, etc.). I used aragonite sand when I had a Cuban gar and never had any issues.

You may want to improve your filtration as well just to be safe; a little extra filtration could make a huge difference.
 
Leebtattoos said:
Our tap water is 7.8-8.0 and holds thst without buffering. Are y'all saying it should be higher?
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What are your hardness levels at? because if it comes out high like that but your not buffered well you'll get PH dips and rolls and thats whats the most dangerous ime.
 
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