Interest in buying Missouri natives

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I'd be happy to trade for stuff stuff I don't have here. :)

You can always sell them on Aqua Bid.

If I put this much money and time into a spawning facility I'm sure as heck going to be selling them everywhere possible lol.
 
I could see sometime down the way, but I'm all stocked up at the moment. probably for the next 8-10 years. my oldest fish are only 1.5 years old.
I love the look of your shadow bass.
 
I probably would be, only problem; my tanks are all stocked... unless there are some random unexpected deaths i won't be going native for a while yet, but it is something that I will be doing in time. The only reason i would ever buy a native is to get one that i couldn't easily get here (madtoms, darters)... any idea on the laws for selling/distributing natives? or just plain keeping them? I live in IA and can catch most of what you mentioned, despite some of them...

EDIT: to ask what a stocking list for a 55 could be if it would include the banded pygmy sunfish, and checkered madtom, and i also like the look of the northern studfish.

Again this is just speculation, i can't stock this tank atm its got fish in it lol.

One last question, Are they pellet/flake trained? What are their diet requirements.... Thanks
 
I could see sometime down the way, but I'm all stocked up at the moment. probably for the next 8-10 years. my oldest fish are only 1.5 years old.
I love the look of your shadow bass.

Thanks. :)

Gill Blue said:
I'd be in for some Red & O-Spots if you get those going. Poss some Dollars esp. if they were the east. var.

PM me and tell me how soon you'd be interested in them. :)

Not sure what you mean by east variety on the dollars. You'll have to give me an example.

Pyramid_party said:
Hey ShadowBass what are day and night temps where you are at? Also are you interested in trading anything?

PM'd you about trading.

Right now Night temps are in the 40s and 50s. And day is between 60 and 80 depending on when you look...
SE MO is all over the place with temps. Sometimes it's in the 70s mid winter.

Tankdempsey said:
EDIT: to ask what a stocking list for a 55 could be if it would include the banded pygmy sunfish, and checkered madtom, and i also like the look of the northern studfish.

Oh you definitely could NOT keep a checkered madtom with pygmy sunfish. They get to 7 inches long and have big mouths. They're more suited for medium sized relatively docile true sunfish, large minnows, other similar sized catfish, adult logperch, and stuff like that. I don't know if I'd trust an adult with anything but the largest northern studfish.

Pygmy sunfish and studfish may not be suited as tankmates for the most part. Pygmies, IME, take forever to find pieces of food. They just aren't in a rush, and they stop every inch or so and look around. You would have to feed heavily to get them food with quick eaters. The studfish aren't as quick as my minnows, but they aggressive feeders, and they will feed at all levels of the tank. Not to mention they get a lot bigger and could easily bully the pygmies as they are sometimes ill tempered.
Pygmies do best in species tanks, but they'd be ok with darters (other than logperch), topminnows, and small killifish.

Banded Pygmies are notoriously hard, if not impossible, to get on flake or pellet foods, but captive raised ones can usually get on frozen foods. They eat small worms, small crustaceans or bug larva, like mosquito larva, bloodworms, amphipods and copepods, etc.
I won't send anyone any fish that are not already eating some kind of prepared food unless they have a consistent supply of live feeders. A banded pygmy sunfish that has not accepted prepared foods is not guaranteed to switch even to fresh frozen, and they should eat daily.
On the plus side though, they are very hardy and easily shipped. The place I find them most has a consistent ammonia level of .25 and other organics. I can probably ship eggs also.

trick1441 said:
I'm interested in a mean mouth I've only seen pictures but I've seen articles saying they have been caught in Missouri.

Huh. I actually hadn't heard that term before. Looks like they're mainly in Western, MO.

I can't sell wildcaught gamefish, but I might be able to produce something like that, or see if one of the aquaculture facilities in the area has some hybrids.
 
"I'd be in for some Red & O-Spots if you get those going. Poss some Dollars esp. if they were the east. var."

I just got a bunch of Longears & western Dollars in the 1/2"-1" range so i'd love to put 6 Redspots of the same size in the same grow out tank right now. They are going to winter in this 72gal tank for the winter and go into seperate tanks this summer and eventually in a 400plus gal plywood tank late next fall.

On the Eastern Dollar i've read they have a different color pattern and differing mouth shape than the Western Var. But where the native range is i'm not sure. I got my small Westerns from a guy in breeder in Ohio along w/ Central Longear & MO Longears.
 
Can you catch and breed several endemic local species for sale like the Noturus albater, Ozark madtom, or the Ozark bass (Ambloplites constellatus)? Last time I checked if you did you would be the only one out of all the online native fish dealers (zimmermans,Jonahs, sachs, btdarters) that i know of to carry these.
 
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