"I cannot say for certain what the origin is for these fish, I just go by what is invoiced, since I am told these have never been exported I will take their word for it."
So what did it say in the invoice? Sao fran. Kel quitis? I mean did you follow the invoice or did you get the sao fran name coz you saw my fish and decided it looked the same? You are very difficult to understand.
"I added "sao francisco" after cichla sp. because I saw your fish and thought they were the same, so for people to reference. and even commented on your thread and thought that we all agreed that these were a new item"
"Yes. That is why I sold them as Sao Francisco. I actually commented on your photo 2 wks ago saying that your fish looked a bit like kelberi x piquiti. But you didn't reply. Them I commented under saying that I had the same fish and you smiled back."
That was actually a wink not a smile coz i knew already what you were up to.
These are quotes from wes as well during a recent conversation with chizzle please check chizzles posted yahoo mail pages.... And the phone conversation.....
This is what wes said when chizzle asked where the azuls come from he asked also for pics... And again their conversation on the phone...
"It wouldnt be too much, but theyre in a bottom holding tank. So its hard to take pics...... These are all shipped originally out of brazil. Sao francisco region is what im told, like the previous batches."
On the phone
"Chee: Are the Azuls Wild Caught?
Wes: Yes"
Okay wait. So you are saying that your sao fran sp name came from me right? But your azuls were labelled sao francisco too? And you mentioned previous batches? You had some alleged azuls from sao francisco too? Wow small world huh? Im not gonna divulge with the wild caught cb debate anymore. A man who lies has a lot of stories and sooner or later pieces wont fit. Make an excuse out and the story gets longer. My inside info is out already, im sorry if i may have hurt some parties. I told everyone that i heard someone from the u.s. was gonna pass kelquitis up as wc. Then these happened and some piquitis are also ordered by wes that was originally from brazil, sao francisco area, then since my sao frans looked like these fish, wes named them sao frans.
"*that you're going to expose me, like I'm an international scam artist. Geeze. Even if I did mislead people, by making my new cichla sp. sound more exciting, I'm definitly not the first out of the thousands that do that, and I did not say they were wild, again!*"
Yes you did mislead people sir, way to do the "coz everybody's doin it" excuse. yes you made a new cichla sound more exciting. But ever consider hurting your good paying customers? By telling stuff that are not true? Im sure alot of your customers love you, its evident here. So ill use myself as the example. If i were a customer who was mislead. I would not be happy.
"nice discussion going on here, cheers to all who keep bass and try to find the truth.*"
Oh thanks wes for believing in what im doing.
The issue here is not the cb wc war, not the country war, its about the misinformation and dishonesty. Nid and everyone who want to talk about my sao fran being the same species as the kelquiti, lets go talk about it! Lets open a thread about it and ill get all my pic progressions and talk about possible theories! Im really up to that! Im not lying about anything when i say that i believe my supplier to the point where i help out some sometime when some fish arrive. No fish arrived from asia at that time, i can read and i can see... Yes darboy can read where packages come from. Thats all i know bros. Could they be asian bred and shipped to south america? Its still possible! Call me a liar its okay, i will respect that. Show me proof? Look at my quotes everything ive said my whole time in mfk. You will never see anything irregular that would make anyone think im dishonest. Anyway yeah im done with this. If you guys still do not believe me. Good for you
for those who does, good for you too
You can continue bashing now
nid! Ill open a thread tomorrow. Lets talk about the kelquitis and sao frans. If you need pics, close up pics, whatever, ill provide it. Ill get a kelquiti tomorrow and record its progress as well. Anyway asian time to sleep! Happy fish keeping everyone! Wes, sorry for fighting for the others. Sorry for all the hoopla this topic has created in our cichla forum. Everybody be safe!
