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Oroll, I recently i just throw fluval carbon bags in a small bucket, poke a few holes on the bottom, set on my lid and fill after I drain some water. I still 1/4 dose prime, and my fish
seemed much less stressed and finicky after wc.


I've used a uv for a year, only cuz I needed added gph, but the past 4 months I took it out. No difference in anything....in my case its a waste of electricity...not to mention no more ordering bulbs.


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HULON said:
UV sterilization for tanks and for your fish some say you don't need it until Well you need it !!!!!Big mistake if you value what's in you tank !!!! You can go along months even years possably when something hits your tank that the fish are not used to then you have a problem !!! That's why i use them on my tanks let's hear some other opinions ????
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i am now a believer on UV i have went without it for years, added one several months ago and rays started acting more active, and eating more, and also not breathing heavy after big meals or at all..... Must have something to do with o2 absorption.
 
jcardona1 said:
A UV is an optional item, and not a requirement like let's say a heater or a filter. Those are requirements, not options.
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Filter and heater could be as same as an UV, optional item, or requirement item, depend on how you keep your tank, and what you keep in your tank. Back home,we kept fish with daily water change, and without a single filter. I've unplugged my heater on some tanks since February, and have some tank that haven't had a heater for years

F1 VET said:
I've used a uv for a year, only cuz I needed added gph, but the past 4 months I took it out. No difference in anything....in my case its a waste of electricity...not to mention no more ordering bulbs.
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How can an UV add gph? If you used an UV for a year, I don't think you ever needed to order bulb..
 
cordero01 said:
IMO uv are great but what you guys think about of the ozonizers? Its old technology but still in the hobby!?
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Ozonizer is good, but I can't stand the rotten egg smell!
 
00rollins said:
How do you guys feel about carbon filter for treating wc water vs using a chem like prime with 24 hr to degas and temp regulate prior to adding to the aquarium.
I am running drip cinarios thru my head but I don't know if I feel comfortable with the filtered tap water. I live on long island, no resevore, and after rain my water sometimes looks slightly cloudy, and you can smell the chlorine like its a pool this makes me nervous to use drip cause on holding container I can see the quality prior to adding to the tank, if I notice anything unsatisfactory I will wait till conditions are better.
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I'm with you, still nervous on those carbon filter. I've heard many good story with whole house filtration system, but one of my friend has one installed, and still had a bad accident, when he did frequent and large water change on one of his tank. We were not sure whether the water was the problem, or his filtration was crush at that time. Even when I install one, I still store water to degas, and still add Prime when I fill my fish tank, not just when I fill my storage bins
 
jlnguyen74 said:
Filter and heater could be as same as an UV, optional item, or requirement item, depend on how you keep your tank, and what you keep in your tank. Back home,we kept fish with daily water change, and without a single filter. I've unplugged my heater on some tanks since February, and have some tank that haven't had a heater for years


How can an UV add gph? If you used an UV for a year, I don't think you ever needed to order bulb..
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Sub uv, 9watt, 200gph 55gal tank. The bulbs become much less effective after awhile, it may still light up but that's about it.



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jcardona1 said:
I use catalytic granular activated carbon in my filters to treat tapwater for chlorine/chloramines. Granted my city doesn't add chloramines, but the right type of carbon will work for chloramines. And several people use these types of filters for water changers and drip systems. Another member said that he's heard it doesn't work as well for chloramines, but I have no experience. If you're worried, pick up a chlorine/chloramines test kit from thefilterguys and see what the output is. If the water turns pink that means the carbon isn't working for you and you'll need to go the chemical route.

For a water changer, this typically involves using an automated dosing pump like the Chemilizer that pulls in Prime and mixes it with tapwater, then feeds it straight to the tank. This is how Li/Neoprodigy set up his water changer.
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Thanks for the response, I'll look into the doser

F1 VET said:
Oroll, I recently i just throw fluval carbon bags in a small bucket, poke a few holes on the bottom, set on my lid and fill after I drain some water. I still 1/4 dose prime, and my fish
seemed much less stressed and finicky after wc.


I've used a uv for a year, only cuz I needed added gph, but the past 4 months I took it out. No difference in anything....in my case its a waste of electricity...not to mention no more ordering bulbs.


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Unfortunately for me this would be impossible as I would need an inline filter because I use over 300gal weekly for wc. I acctually have perfected adding new water to my tanks it just very labor intensive. When I add water I never get heavy breathing or any adverse effect, my fish look happier. I want to incorperate my current old school style (cold water, prime, degas 24+hr while temp adjusts to same as tanks)

I personally like uv and consider it a necessity in a fully stocked tank. I know exactly what uv can do when utilized correctly, knowing that harmful bactiria and parasites cannot thrive in the water column of my ridiculously overstocked showtank helps me sleep at night. The facts stated by Hulon earlier about adding fish and possible indtroduction of deadly bactiria is something most long time fish keepers have experienced first hand. Uv however may not be as much a necessity in all setups, although the benefits are irrefutable.

I've had a turbo twist with same bulb for over 2 years, bulbs cost me 9 bucks for 2 on eBay..... I'm sure the 40 will end up costing me more when a replacement is needed.

jlnguyen74 said:
I'm with you, still nervous on those carbon filter. I've heard many good story with whole house filtration system, but one of my friend has one installed, and still had a bad accident, when he did frequent and large water change on one of his tank. We were not sure whether the water was the problem, or his filtration was crush at that time. Even when I install one, I still store water to degas, and still add Prime when I fill my fish tank, not just when I fill my storage bins
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Yes. Carbon filters are flawed, I need to incorperate automatic drip to tanks and auto dosing/filling to my ageing containers. Currently I'm in the planning stages, I moving within the next six months and want to setup automated system with central filtration in my new place.



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00rollins said:
Carbon filters are flawed
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They're not flawed, they're just not made intended for every application, just like sumps vs bead filters. The main thing with carbon is that it needs slow flow rates to break down chlorine. If the water passes thru too fast, it won't be effective. And it needs to be monitored and replaced when exhausted.
 
jcardona1 said:
They're not flawed, they're just not made intended for every application, just like sumps vs bead filters. The main thing with carbon is that it needs slow flow rates to break down chlorine. If the water passes thru too fast, it won't be effective. And it needs to be monitored and replaced when exhausted.
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One flaw I've read about is the possibility that the filter can harbor harmful bactiria and end up causing more harm than help. I'm sure with routine maintenance these issues can be averted. I was nervious because I know at times the quality of water coming from my tap can be far below desired standarts, and I'm not sure how this would effect the life and efficiency of the filter.

Btw Well said

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