Growing out this Carpintis

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It's highly likely that all of the carpintis from that location are related, no matter where you buy them.

Matt

MTBjake said:
I actually have his sister who is a bit larger than him in my 240 but I have no desire to put them together again. I originally separated them because I was worried they might try to breed.
I might eventually try to breed him if I can find an unrelated female but probably not for a couple years at least.


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dogofwar said:
It's highly likely that all of the carpintis from that location are related, no matter where you buy them.

Matt
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Possibly, but if I wait a couple years i should be safe. And i dont necessarily need to find him a mate that is collected at the Vontehillo site. That's actually pretty interesting and something I didn't really think about. Matt, what is your opinion of fry from the same parents breeding? I've always heard it wasn't a big deal if its just a single generation and not continued but just never wanted to do it. Honestly I've got breeding jags and Trimacs already and don't need Carpintis to deal with too! Lol


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Just so that the fish in question aren't producing offspring with obvious deformities or genetic defects, then inbreeding for many generations has proven to be fine. In fact, line breeding (i.e. selective inbreeding) is how many lines of fancy fish have been developed, sometimes intentionally breeding lines of fish with deformities.

Remember that ALL of some of the most popular new world cichlids in the hobby are from a couple of pairs that folks have collected and brought back to the US. In other words, they're all related.

Matt

MTBjake said:
Possibly, but if I wait a couple years i should be safe. And i dont necessarily need to find him a mate that is collected at the Vontehillo site. That's actually pretty interesting and something I didn't really think about. Matt, what is your opinion of fry from the same parents breeding? I've always heard it wasn't a big deal if its just a single generation and not continued but just never wanted to do it. Honestly I've got breeding jags and Trimacs already and don't need Carpintis to deal with too! Lol


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dogofwar said:
Just so that the fish in question aren't producing offspring with obvious deformities or genetic defects, then inbreeding for many generations has proven to be fine. In fact, line breeding (i.e. selective inbreeding) is how many lines of fancy fish have been developed, sometimes intentionally breeding lines of fish with deformities.

Remember that ALL of some of the most popular new world cichlids in the hobby are from a couple of pairs that folks have collected and brought back to the US. In other words, they're all related.

Matt
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Alright cool. Thanks for the input Matt. Maybe ill let this dude and his sister get a year or two of growth and see what happens when I reintroduce them.


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this is not a Vontehillo. It is a Carpinte. Vontehillo is just a place where they were found.



I want this fish :drool:
 
Update: here's a couple pics I took just yesterday. He's stopped eating massivore but is still pounding down NLS and his new treat is baby Trimacs (my Trimacs are breeding like convicts)


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