Is this overstocked or is it just me?

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It is overstocked if these fish will be in there for life. Even if she has good filtration and does water changes everyday, there will still be the aggression issue. I bet the oscars and JDs don't make it, and she might end up with the Jags or festae. My guess is the jags, because it will grow faster and mature well before the festae.
 
those fish are good until I say about 7-8's in that tank then it would look cramed IMHO, also things could get worst if they start spawning in there and free swimming babies arrive then you will have real problems. like said earlier a 180gal with all males and thats it would work, but thats if somebody doesnt feel like turning into a killer lol.
 
I told her about these comments and she said "I don't care about expert opinion", but she still took off one jag. still think she should take of both jags and get one female festea instead of two, but its a start.
 
I told her about these comments and she said "I don't care about expert opinion", but she still took off one jag. still think she should take of both jags and get one female festea instead of two, but its a start.

I'm with you... Drop both jags and one festea.
 
Totally agree the jags will own the tank,and 2/3rds of it will be a jag on patrol,and all the other fish to scared to move in the other 3rd or less of the tank,and the 2nd jag will be dead or it's mate,and in that case all other fish will be dead


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Just Fyi....in order to get a sure thing female Festae, the fish will need to be around 3-4". She will grow the slowest and will get beat on by the bigger fish, but if she makes it past the 5-6" mark the tank will no longer be overstocked because she will most likely dominate every other fish in that tank and kill them. My female in my Avatar is just past 6" and she handles a 12" Jag and 12" Argentea with ease....of course this is in an 8 footer so they have room to spread out, but I know I might be rehousing fish once she reaches the 10-12" mark....

Best thing you can do is what you've already done. Most of us around here learn from experience and keeping large cichlids means some casualties along the way. She'll find out sooner or later........we've all made similar mistakes and pretty soon she'll understand. Big difference in juvenile fish aggression and adults....
 
Jags will kill everything if the nitrates don't.


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