Everywhere I've seen says you need a large group because they are hard to sex and very aggressive. Is that not true? I'm curious because I was thinking about getting some.
What tank size is realistic
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Everywhere I've seen says you need a large group because they are hard to sex and very aggressive. Is that not true? I'm curious because I was thinking about getting some.
I really like the Demasoni/Yellow Lab combo, the colors always seem to work really well together, and JC that is a very nice looking tank-what are you lighting it with? I have also heard that Demasoni do better in larger groups like 15+, but never keeping them myself I don't know if that's true. If not I would like to add a handful to my mixed tank, although I'm worried about the adult size being much smaller than the Kenyi and Bumblebee's will reach.
The Demasoni are much smaller, but I'll put them up against just about anything honestly. Most of the aggression is conspecific, so anything that looks like them is screwed. They don't even notice the labs unless one is in their chosen cave.
Interestingly enough, I started with a group of 17 and for whatever reason, wether shipping or husbandry issues, the group shrank down to 5 .......2 males and 3 females......doom...... or so I thought
Now, I'm back up to 13 with 4 females currently holding. There are 2 dominant males, 1 on each side of the tank and they wont stop breeding. I've probably pulled 30 in the last 3 months and now are the only fish I DONT pull each month. They will now punk anything in the tank, but the sheer size difference seems to keep them at bay as some of the fish are 6" plus
They are pretty tough to sex, but places like Cichlid express are pretty good at doing it and even though I thought the group was doomed, they are now breeding out of control lol
Lighting is a Current 36 Compact Flo 10K/actinic in the center with a 48" T-8 natural daylight behind and 2 18" T-12 natural daylight on the sides
Interestingly enough, I started with a group of 17 and for whatever reason, wether shipping or husbandry issues, the group shrank down to 5 .......2 males and 3 females......doom...... or so I thought
Now, I'm back up to 13 with 4 females currently holding. There are 2 dominant males, 1 on each side of the tank and they wont stop breeding. I've probably pulled 30 in the last 3 months and now are the only fish I DONT pull each month. They will now punk anything in the tank, but the sheer size difference seems to keep them at bay as some of the fish are 6" plus
They are pretty tough to sex, but places like Cichlid express are pretty good at doing it and even though I thought the group was doomed, they are now breeding out of control lol
Lighting is a Current 36 Compact Flo 10K/actinic in the center with a 48" T-8 natural daylight behind and 2 18" T-12 natural daylight on the sides
Great info! thanks! Those Demasoni look awesome! A tank filled with a colony of Demasoni would look great i think.. Is there another way to catch them (like trap them??) then to have to take out all the rock once a month? I hate messing around with rocks in an aquarium. Does it stress them out at all? I mean you're destroying territory, etc.
. I've probably pulled 30 in the last 3 months and now are the only fish I DONT pull each month. They will now punk anything in the tank, but the sheer size difference seems to keep them at bay as some of the fish are 6" plus
Wait, you're not puling them because they dont breed anymore or because you want to increase their numbers?
Im pulling them because they breed like crazy lol. I cant get them to stop. I had close to 70 fish in there last week and even though overstocking is good with Africans, 70 in that tank is way over the topWait, you're not puling them because they dont breed anymore or because you want to increase their numbers?
Im pulling them because they breed like crazy lol. I cant get them to stop. I had close to 70 fish in there last week and even though overstocking is good with Africans, 70 in that tank is way over the top
ok lol, i was confused because you said you DONT pull them every month.. Can you describe a step-by-step of pulling the young ones out? How large are they when you do? Do you deliver them to the LFS, how much do they pay you for them?
Thanks!
I havent started selling them to the lfs but I will at the rate I've been going. Been giving them away and using the hybrids as feeders.
Process is pretty straightforward, but takes a while and just plain sux to do. I literally pull every rock out during a water change and get the net. lotta cussing and water splashing and chasing......
Process is pretty straightforward, but takes a while and just plain sux to do. I literally pull every rock out during a water change and get the net. lotta cussing and water splashing and chasing......
I havent started selling them to the lfs but I will at the rate I've been going. Been giving them away and using the hybrids as feeders.
Process is pretty straightforward, but takes a while and just plain sux to do. I literally pull every rock out during a water change and get the net. lotta cussing and water splashing and chasing......
Sounds like a pain in the ... And thats about once a month?
Does it take them long to 'recover' ? If I mess around in my Oscar's tank, he gets a little stressed i.e. dramatic (starts floating weird, color fades).. He's always fine about 10 min later though.
