how much do you guys TIP your waiter?

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Yeah. Why doesn't the restaurant owner 'tip' his staff? They are the ones making him the money after all...right?

Yep. But this has always been a funny thing to me. Like people think you're a cheap scumbag for seeing it the way we see it
 
Because, for example, in CT, minimum wage is $8.25. Minimum wage for servers is $5.69. If you don't tip ( like Mr. Pink) you are taking their pay away from them... And they aren't looking to work for free for you.


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You must not have looked at the link
 
Yep. But this has always been a funny thing to me. Like people think you're a cheap scumbag for seeing it the way we see it

And then you get servers who purposely give bad service or worse, sabotage food/drinks to those who are 'bad tippers' like robmcd admits. If somebody is a scumbag, it's the servers.
 
Wrong again. They work for the restaurant.

It's ok if I stumped you, don't feel bad. :-)

They are payed (by the company) less because they are paid for their services by the customer. They are servicing you. They are paid by the restaurant for prep work, stocking tables (sugar, ketchup, etc), sweeping/ mopping, cleaning. YOU are paying to not have to get up and refill your own soda.
Please, don't think I was stumped. I know exactly what I wanted to say... I just didn't know how to tactfully comment on the insight to your character you so gracefully provided. :)


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You must not have looked at the link

I read it, video won't work on my phone. I'm not saying that there aren't servers that don't deserve excessive generosity. I'm sure they are out there. That's the beauty of tipping waitstaff. If they are that bad, they won't be in the business for long. If the restaurant paid them full wages, there would be no incentive to do a good job. If they DO do a good job, I have absolutely no problem showing appreciation. I don't know where you guys are eating, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've felt the waiter deserved less than 20%


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They are payed (by the company) less because they are paid for their services by the customer. They are servicing you. They are paid by the restaurant for prep work, stocking tables (sugar, ketchup, etc), sweeping/ mopping, cleaning. YOU are paying to not have to get up and refill your own soda.
Please, don't think I was stumped. I know exactly what I wanted to say... I just didn't know how to tactfully comment on the insight to your character you so gracefully provided. :)


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was just messing with you bro lol. just having fun while debating. but i know what you're saying. i just feel you're wrong. make no mistake, they don't work for me

tipping is optional. i don't get why you think it's the responsibility of the consumer to pay for the waiter's wage. it's not mandatory. and i keep saying, if they don't like it, look for work elsewhere.

i can go right now and find a job assembling clocks or something and make min wage. people who work as bartenders and waiters choose that job because the tips more than make up for the low pay. so, hey, don't cry about it if you get a bad tip. you choose to be there
 
was just messing with you bro lol. just having fun while debating. but i know what you're saying. i just feel you're wrong. make no mistake, they don't work for me

tipping is optional. i don't get why you think it's the responsibility of the consumer to pay for the waiter's wage. it's not mandatory. and i keep saying, if they don't like it, look for work elsewhere.

i can go right now and find a job assembling clocks or something and make min wage. people who work as bartenders and waiters choose that job because the tips more than make up for the low pay. so, hey, don't cry about it if you get a bad tip. you choose to be there

My problem is the inconsistencies withe the practice of tipping. You're supposed to tip 'these guys' here, but don't tip 'those guys' they don't need or deserve it. Without repeating this entire scene, this is exactly how I feel about it:

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was just messing with you bro lol. just having fun while debating. but i know what you're saying. i just feel you're wrong. make no mistake, they don't work for me

tipping is optional. i don't get why you think it's the responsibility of the consumer to pay for the waiter's wage. it's not mandatory. and i keep saying, if they don't like it, look for work elsewhere.

i can go right now and find a job assembling clocks or something and make min wage. people who work as bartenders and waiters choose that job because the tips more than make up for the low pay. so, hey, don't cry about it if you get a bad tip. you choose to be there

I see where you are coming from, and I apologize for reading that as serious. But, did you read my first post in this thread (post # 23)? In this day and age, without tips, you can't survive on 5 something an hour. And like I said before, I would rather give an extra buck or two than have more people who are burdens of the state.


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The way I see it is that a bad server will make less than minimum wage and will be forced to find a different job, but a great server will be able to make much more than that. Think about a good bartender who receives a dollar per drink-how many drinks an hour can they serve? How many tables does someone serve in an hour?
 
My problem is the inconsistencies withe the practice of tipping. You're supposed to tip 'these guys' here, but don't tip 'those guys' they don't need or deserve it. Without repeating this entire scene, this is exactly how I feel about it:

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yes

how much do barbers make anyways? do they make $2/hr? or do they make min wage? if so, screw barbers. but i don't go to barbers so nevermind i said that
 
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