Any interesting African hybrids?

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African hybrids are to be avoided...but to say all African's body shapes and color are alike...obviously an eye biter looks like a RED empress looks like a sunshine peacock that looks like Malawi Barracuda that looks like a Malawi dolphin...and that is just one lake in Africa.


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If you're talking to me, I never said all African's colors and body shapes are a like.

Anyways back to the point if my thread, I guess there aren't any "interesting" African hybrids.

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There are not interesting hybrids because the pure breds are unique as is. In CA/SA hybrids, people breed to emphasis a certain character because in most parts, CA/SA cichlids are much more generalists than the Africans(Malawi and tangs). In Africans, a lot of the cichlids are highly specialized. Any cross breeding REDUCES their uniqueness, so instead, you see lots of line breeding to increase an unique feature.


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gutted said:
If you're talking to me, I never said all African's colors and body shapes are a like.

Anyways back to the point if my thread, I guess there aren't any "interesting" African hybrids.

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Why do you need hybrids? There are hundreds of different species of african cichlids in the hobby.
 
ecoli73 said:
There are not interesting hybrids because the pure breds are unique as is. In CA/SA hybrids, people breed to emphasis a certain character because in most parts, CA/SA cichlids are much more generalists than the Africans(Malawi and tangs). In Africans, a lot of the cichlids are highly specialized. Any cross breeding REDUCES their uniqueness, so instead, you see lots of line breeding to increase an unique feature.
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I guess you were talking to me. There probably isnt more hybrids because they cannot breed between different genus.



joe jaskot said:
Why do you need hybrids? There are hundreds of different species of african cichlids in the hobby.
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Why are you replying in the Hybrid section? This isnt a post to discuss hybrids vs non-hybrids.



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I have kept and seen many hap tanks, including those displayed in public aquariums. All haps evolved from a single bloodline, and this is why they are very similar and can cross breed with one another. All haps are mouthbrooders, have similar behavior, and like to be in motion constantly. An all haps tank is boring, so I like to mix a few haps with Tangs and CA to provide diversity. The water requirements for CAs are the same as Africans, and there are species small and mellow enough to mix in with Africans.
 
Majority of the designer fish were created in Asia. One reason you don't see many African hybrids in the trade is that Asian aren't interested in creating them, perhaps because Africans lack the morphological and behavioral traits that can be improved upon. For example, Africans don't interact with pet owner as much as CAs and there are no African glass bangers. Africans lack the massive size and hump except for Frontosa but there is no opportunity to hybridize Frontosa with something else. The only hybrids came out of Asia are the OB and Dragon Blood peacocks that add red to the predominantly blue Malawian fish.
 
Heres a couple of my mishaps over the years, these guys were brothers.

The pictures don't do him justice, his white area is pearl that the flash took away.
The second male ended up turning very red but I only have the dark pic.

They were both around 8" fish.

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