hey all, thanks for all the replys and all opinions are valued and im glad some people know i am a good fish keeper... i never intended them to fight although i obviously knew they would and will increase as the dovii put on size. i think the reason most of us few who keep aggressive communitys do it to enjoy the hierachy of the tank and the fact that there will be scuffles can get the blood rushing... neither of these fish have so much as a badly ripped fin atm! this is the second time ive had both pairs spawn since xmas... either i'll get another tank or sell the dovii, i could sell this dovii pair in a heart beat to many people i know. i know the midas is staying with me forever now, he is fast become as important to me as my dogs!-) the flowerhorn will be moving to our bedroom soon and i may sell the festae as they dont do much for me other than looking nice.... pike is open to offers aswell, anyone?