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Mastiffman said:
Okay, got it. Wat kind of filtration on the tank?

Also, I would think that IF Anything it would probably be some mort of Bacterial infection. And for that I would Defintely use Kanaplex! It's made by SeaChem and is a Fantastic product! it can be diluted in heated tank water and then administered right into the water. The Meds are absorbed immedaitely and directly into the skin of the fish. Interanl parasite woudn't make sense really as that is something more found in WC fish as an issue. I would be doing water changes of 50% every other day on this treatment. You can dose upto 3 times every two days and 3 more doses after that IF you don't see a change.

You could also smash some high quality pellet food into a past using 3% solution (1tbsp/2cups of Distilled water) and a little bit of minced garlic in with that. Then use a Syringe and Medical IV line to administer this to him 2 times a day for 3-5 days. See if that helps.

once again, these are Merely Suggestions and I take no responsibility for any issues caused from this treatment. although I don't see why it woudl harm the fish if done properly.
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It's a 55 gallon tank with two penguin 330 filters. Bacterial infection?
Is kanaplex expensive stuff? Looks like my lfs has it so I might check it out. Looks like its designed for fishes that don't eat? So u think its an infection and not parasite internal?

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Its internal and the meds need to be injested.metro
Either in mashed up food or fed directly with pipet.



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NationsMostWanted said:
It's a 55 gallon tank with two penguin 330 filters. Bacterial infection?
Is kanaplex expensive stuff? Looks like my lfs has it so I might check it out. Looks like its designed for fishes that don't eat? So u think its an infection and not parasite internal?

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Yes, there is bacteria in all aquariums and if the immune system of the fish is weakened through stress of some sort (larger water change than the fish was sued to) that it could infect the fish.

It's about $8/ 5grams at my LFS and you can get the 100g bottle of about $75.

Source310 said:
Its internal and the meds need to be injested.metro
Either in mashed up food or fed directly with pipet.

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Not "all" meds need to be "ingested". And when a Fish is NOT eatting, Kanaplex is what SeaChem recommends. Some will also be absorbed through the fishes skin if administered into the tank water. Such cases is with seaChems "Kanaplex". But it can be administered through food soaking and using "focus" which allows it to bind to the food better. Also made by SeaChem.

And I would stay clear of NLS. The Quality is going down in my opinion... It's kind of hit and miss with them. JMTC though.
 
NationsMostWanted said:
Ill see if kanaplex is in stores today. Mybe start with 5 grams bottle first


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Okay. Fyi there are about 27 measures inside the 5g bottle. For a 55 gal you'll need 11 measures. Do a 50% water change prior to treating amd remove the activated crbon from the filter or it will remove the Kanaplex.
 
To the OP ........... unfortunately nobody on a fish forum can tell you exactly what is causing the problem in your fish, sight unseen. It just doesn't work that way. About all anyone can do is take their best guesstimate, and offer some options. The problem with forums is you really don't know who's behind the screen, or what their experience level is, so caveat emptor when taking advice on a public forum.


For example, I feed NLS to all of my fish, including flowerhorns when I kept them, and never once had any type of health issues in my fish. Quite the opposite. I have over a decade in experience with that particular brand of food, and approx 30 yrs worth of animal nutrition experience. Secondly, one of the previous posters suggested to you that
Interanl parasite woudn't make sense really as that is something more found in WC fish as an issue.
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........ which again is just plain incorrect.

Ornamental species of fish are notorious for carrying internal parasites, the most common being Spironucleus vortens. That is exactly what "hexamita" is, an internal parasite (specifically S. vortens), which as most FH keepers know is a VERY common ailment with flowerhorns.


With fish that are no longer eating food, the medication is mostly absorbed into the bloodstream via the gills, and in this case if one is going to take a shotgun approach to treatment, being that there is no way in hell in knowing what the exact problem of your fish is - I would recommend treating with CLOUT. It's more of a broad spectrum treatment that while quite strong, often works in cases such as this.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4724



Good luck amigo.
 
RD. said:
To the OP ........... unfortunately nobody on a fish forum can tell you exactly what is causing the problem in your fish, sight unseen. It just doesn't work that way. About all anyone can do is take their best guesstimate, and offer some options. The problem with forums is you really don't know who's behind the screen, or what their experience level is, so caveat emptor when taking advice on a public forum.


For example, I feed NLS to all of my fish, including flowerhorns when I kept them, and never once had any type of health issues in my fish. Quite the opposite. I have over a decade in experience with that particular brand of food, and approx 30 yrs worth of animal nutrition experience. Secondly, one of the previous posters suggested to you that ........ which again is just plain incorrect.

Ornamental species of fish are notorious for carrying internal parasites, the most common being Spironucleus vortens. That is exactly what "hexamita" is, an internal parasite (specifically S. vortens), which as most FH keepers know is a VERY common ailment with flowerhorns.


With fish that are no longer eating food, the medication is mostly absorbed into the bloodstream via the gills, and in this case if one is going to take a shotgun approach to treatment, being that there is no way in hell in knowing what the exact problem of your fish is - I would recommend treating with CLOUT. It's more of a broad spectrum treatment that while quite strong, often works in cases such as this.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4724



Good luck amigo.
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Is clout fed to fish or added to water? I notice its a tablet. I do appreciate the help and I too have bee raising cichlids for about 13 years and this first time I had issues

I do read clout is banned in California?

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You add it to the water.

Everything seems to be banned in California, except medicinal pot smoking. :)
 
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