I need a new Monitor

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It sounds like your unsure of what you want. But the things you want aren't easily attainable. Especially given the current issues your having with your current monitor. Personally speaking and not trying to be insulting. But it seems as though you just want something to want it but don't understand The demands upon yourself to care for or become educated about what you have right now. I've had several different reptiles. 3 different monitors big snakes iguanas. All of them present challenges. Just like the monitor you have now is. Maybe instead of dumping this guy rise to the challenges it presents. Getting a different monitor won't solve issues. Just create different ones. Again not trying to bash or offend you. Just what I feel I'm hearing and seeing.

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Aquaticfan said:
It sounds like your unsure of what you want. But the things you want aren't easily attainable. Especially given the current issues your having with your current monitor. Personally speaking and not trying to be insulting. But it seems as though you just want something to want it but don't understand The demands upon yourself to care for or become educated about what you have right now. I've had several different reptiles. 3 different monitors big snakes iguanas. All of them present challenges. Just like the monitor you have now is. Maybe instead of dumping this guy rise to the challenges it presents. Getting a different monitor won't solve issues. Just create different ones. Again not trying to bash or offend you. Just what I feel I'm hearing and seeing.

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Aquaticfan said:
It sounds like your unsure of what you want. But the things you want aren't easily attainable. Especially given the current issues your having with your current monitor. Personally speaking and not trying to be insulting. But it seems as though you just want something to want it but don't understand The demands upon yourself to care for or become educated about what you have right now. I've had several different reptiles. 3 different monitors big snakes iguanas. All of them present challenges. Just like the monitor you have now is. Maybe instead of dumping this guy rise to the challenges it presents. Getting a different monitor won't solve issues. Just create different ones. Again not trying to bash or offend you. Just what I feel I'm hearing and seeing.

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Allow me to clarify myself, I was shaking in fear when I wrote this thread because I spent the whole day trying to find my monitor who I had thought escaped during a party and it turned out he just picked a great hiding spot in the tank so my real thoughts are a little shaky in my previous words.
I have no current issue with taking care of my monitor, the only issues that really exist is that I can't tong feed him which is an attempt to tame him but that could easily be surpassed if I leave food in the tank. But my biggest complaint with my monitor is that I can't tame him, and it may be possible to, my monitor shows a lot of bold behavior that Peacock Monitors typically don't display, but in the end he'll never become as tame as I wish he would, that's why I bothered to make this thread because I know that there are "dog tame" monitors out there and I just wanted to know if I had the space to house any. I understand that taming monitors isn't an easy task and usually will take quite like a year or so but at least with certain species they become tame enough to free roam where is it would be a horrible mistake to let any Peacock Monitor do that no matter how tame they are because they simply don't become that tame and that's the kind of lizard I wanted. I wanted just simply a monitor lizard that got tame like a Savannah or a Water monitor, I just wanted to know if any other smaller species in which I could house were attainable. A Tegu could work as A.gigas suggested but I don't know, I kinda wanted a monitor but if V. salvator and other massive species are the only ones who even barely fit a tame description than I'll just have either get a Savannah, a tegu, or I'l continue to try to tame my current monitor and care for it till I move out and can house a Water Monitor. I do understand what a "tame" monitor is like for example they can't be treated like beardies , like a beardie doesn't mind being handled but monitors don't like being handled in general so even a tame monitor wouldn't behave that way. I'm pretty sure I know what i'm looking for, unless you meant something else and i'm just not getting it.
 
Even if you get a different monitor, it doesn't mean they will tame or tame any easier then what you have. Every animal has its own personality its own behavior. Instead of bailing on your current monitor maybe this same fact I'm explaining above applies. He may need different tactics and work. It may just take time.

Can I ask what made you chose the one you did? Sounds like you have buyers remorse in your selection. How long have you had it? What are you doing to help it become tame? What kind of handling and how often? What kind of homework did you do before getting it?

To get any monitor or animal you want to have behavior like you want is work and takes time persistence and perseverance to accomplish it. It means dealing with the negative and training for positives. It means maybe getting bit clawed scratched or other. If I could only tell you how many times I've been bit or clawed or tail whipped. Blood running down ny arm or leg. I've been bit by monitors that you think are tame or reticulated python that bit me or iguana that took a chunk out of my arm ..but I overcame




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I chose the Peacock Monitor because they were the only small monitor that I liked. I could of gotten an ackie but to me if I had one I wouldn't really feel like I have a monitor because they sorta look like some other kind of lizard. I risked getting Peacock Monitor with the understanding that "they got tame but not easily", but at the time I didn't understand what that meant, I thought that meant they would get tame enough to like beardie qualities, I didn't realize that certain lizards could only trust you to an extent by their nature. I have had him for 3 months. I'm trying to tong feed him to make him trust me and I occasionally will try to pet him if while he's busy eating. I try to avoid handling but I have a total of maybe 5 times in the past and now he doesn't trust my hand. Speaking of this he unlike most Peacock monitor spends most of his tame on a log out in the open, which i've come to learn he will not accept food if he's out in the open and he needs to be hiding in a special cave which i've provided pictures for a few replies back on this thread. Sometimes he won't even take food from the tongs if he's hiding in his cave. the times he'll take food from my tongs is if he just so happens to wonder into this cave that he doesn't even go in very oftenly anymore.
 
Whiptooth said:
I chose the Peacock Monitor because they were the only small monitor that I liked. I could of gotten an ackie but to me if I had one I wouldn't really feel like I have a monitor because they sorta look like some other kind of lizard. I risked getting Peacock Monitor with the understanding that "they got tame but not easily", but at the time I didn't understand what that meant, I thought that meant they would get tame enough to like beardie qualities, I didn't realize that certain lizards could only trust you to an extent by their nature. I have had him for 3 months. I'm trying to tong feed him to make him trust me and I occasionally will try to pet him if while he's busy eating. I try to avoid handling but I have a total of maybe 5 times in the past and now he doesn't trust my hand. Speaking of this he unlike most Peacock monitor spends most of his tame on a log out in the open, which i've come to learn he will not accept food if he's out in the open and he needs to be hiding in a special cave which i've provided pictures for a few replies back on this thread. Sometimes he won't even take food from the tongs if he's hiding in his cave. the times he'll take food from my tongs is if he just so happens to wonder into this cave that he doesn't even go in very oftenly anymore.
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Ok, just as I stated before. Again I'm not trying to insult you or be a jerk. But I eill tell you honestly.

Your comments above show that quite honestly You did not do your homework on learning about this monitor you have before you got it. If you said you've had this guy for more then a year and you've tried to handle him daily, feed him via tong every time so on and so on. Then it would be a different story. But to be quite honest, you need to put the proper work into it and do things differently and most of all work with as mentor that can teach You what you need to be doing to provide the greatest success for you and the monitor.

If you think switching to a different animal or monitor is going to make it different. Your very wrong. I've had both savana and nile monitors. Let me just say both have bit me more the I can count. I've been tail whipped and clawed pretty good to. It took me the better part of a year to get the trust and interaction with them I wanted. It didn't just happen. They weren't automatically ready to be tame. I handled them daily. I created a schedule with them. I got them to know when it was time to eat. When it was time to be held and so on. My nile got to the point after 3 years of time together that he and I would chase each other around the house like a game.


To be quite honest with you, you need more education on any of these animals and you need to realize the effort and work that has to go with them. If not, then you should rethink owning any of them til your ready to do this.

Again this is my experience and feelings on the matter. Remember you have a life in your care. Not something disposable.

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oh... I was told that if you handled monitors all the time they would not trust you, So I didn't. So are you saying I should? I decided to get a different lizard because I was told the kind of behavior I would like to have from a Peacock monitor could not be accomplished but I really wanted to have an interactive lizard. I've learned a lot about Peacock Monitor Behavior in the past 3 months. I learned more accurate things from people who've had experience with monitors who I sought out after I had realized my knowledge I had accumulated was not proving to be effective. But also what might of made me come off as being uneducated on monitors is what I said about the tame-ability of Peacock monitors were without really understanding monitor behavior in general but that was my state of mind when I got my Peacock Monitor, I've learned better since than. By the way my lizard's name is Smaug, i'm just saying just in case im not the only one whose to lazy to type out "Peacock monitor" you know "Smaug" is much shorter and easier on the fingers. But where would I find a reptile mentor? But if you can get a nasty generally aggressive monitor like a Nile to be that tame than yeah ofcourse i'm keeping my timid Peacock monitor
 
Whiptooth said:
oh... I was told that if you handled monitors all the time they would not trust you, So I didn't. So are you saying I should? I decided to get a different lizard because I was told the kind of behavior I would like to have from a Peacock monitor could not be accomplished but I really wanted to have an interactive lizard. I've learned a lot about Peacock Monitor Behavior in the past 3 months. I learned more accurate things from people who've had experience with monitors who I sought out after I had realized my knowledge I had accumulated was not proving to be effective. But also what might of made me come off as being uneducated on monitors is what I said about the tame-ability of Peacock monitors were without really understanding monitor behavior in general but that was my state of mind when I got my Peacock Monitor, I've learned better since than. By the way my lizard's name is Smaug, i'm just saying just in case im not the only one whose to lazy to type out "Peacock monitor" you know "Smaug" is much shorter and easier on the fingers. But where would I find a reptile mentor? But if you can get a nasty generally aggressive monitor like a Nile to be that tame than yeah ofcourse i'm keeping my timid Peacock monitor
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Where did you hear that handling a monitor makes them not trust you?

In my experience with most animals. More interaction creates more trust and more of the desired behavior depending on the type of interaction. I'm sure you will find that to be the case with others.

It takes time to work and build that trust factor.

Normally I recommend people spend 3 months on an animal like this Just learning and gaining all knowledge they can before getting one. That way your prepared. You understand the commitment.

There are several places to find a mentor. Check with local herp clubs and society.

Think about this for a moment. If the only time a person ever opened a reptiles cage was to feed them and the one time they reach in to pet the animal and it tries to bite. Why is it trying to bite? If you interact more with the animal it will eventually become accustomed to that and look for that interaction. If you dangle its food with tongs when you open the cage it will learn its time to eat. It can't learn to be tame till you teach it.

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Ok didnt you tell me a month ago that youd only had this guy for a month? Didnt you get it in march? So wouldnt that mean its only been 2 months? Either way people(including myself) told you it would take LOTS of time. Of course there are people out there that have 'tame' monitors but those people took the TIME(as in waaay more than 2months) to really work with those animals and they did the proper amount of research about what they were getting into.
Also ive seen more nasty savs than tame ones so think long and hard about that before you go get one and get disappointed again. Im not trying to be mean here but it just kills me when people give up so easily and have barely spent any time actually trying to work with what they have and yet theyre ready to move on to the next..
 
blonde.for.life said:
Ok didnt you tell me a month ago that youd only had this guy for a month? Didnt you get it in march? So wouldnt that mean its only been 2 months? Either way people(including myself) told you it would take LOTS of time. Of course there are people out there that have 'tame' monitors but those people took the TIME(as in waaay more than 2months) to really work with those animals and they did the proper amount of research about what they were getting into.
Also ive seen more nasty savs than tame ones so think long and hard about that before you go get one and get disappointed again. Im not trying to be mean here but it just kills me when people give up so easily and have barely spent any time actually trying to work with what they have and yet theyre ready to move on to the next..
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Spoken for truth and I agree 100%

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