I agree with the above statements. Just contributing not arguing
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Raw or cooked??????
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I agree with the above statements. Just contributing not arguing
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Thats o.k. lol. I do make up a home made food occasionally that is a mixture similar to what I think firemedic on here did. Don't quote me on the username could be wrong. I do occasionally feed tilapia which even that in my area contains additives that I wouldn't want to eat. I know some of you guys keep asking about the powder I am starting to mix in with their shrimp. I will put a thread together on that shortly.
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I agree too, but relevance to topic?
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so you are sayiong rays have not learned how to deal with cooked foods
my rays was born in my tank and most of them are 6-7 years old i wonder how long it takes them to get used to it then
when you change a dog from one dry food to another it doesnt take 7 years it takes a few days
rays can handle sea foods yes we know that
we also know that to much salt is bad
so by feeding a fw fish just uncooked shrimp salt water foods its daily salt intake is way to high to be healthy
cooked salt water foods has less salt in it
i never had the need to added silly vitamin dust to my rays food i just feed pellet and frozen prawn as a filler which fills the rays up
i think the big multi million $$$$$ companys like hikari and NLS have spent a lot of $$$$$ to get there mix of food right before putting it on to the market dont you
they even brake down whats in the pellets whats the brake down of whats in 1 shrimp i bet you dont have a clue
I never said its okay to feed them just shrimp. If you looked at my post to the op in the beginning it said drop the cichlid pellets keep up with the sturgeon and massivore pellets and just use fresh shrimp as a treat
If you know so much about pellet foods then you should know most are not "cooked" either dried out, or briefly exposed to high heat to kill bacteria before molding into pellet form. Not cooked by any way we would do in our kitchen, or places that prepare food for human consumption. So, yes, I do know they have their nutrition game down, that's their jobb. Assuming i was saying pellets are not good for fish was jumping the gun quite a bit.
Also never said they couldn't deal with cooked foods, only cooked foods for short periods. Go ahead, do a test and see what happens when all you give a ray is cooked shrimp. It will have nutritional deficiency and die eventually. Just one day out of the blue, no signs (other then maybe being skinny), just like the guy said about his friends sharks earlier in the thread. Humans have had thousands of generations eating cooked food, and we supplement ourselves with raw (or vitamin pills). If you weren't also using the pellets, your rays would not have the proper nutrition and die. That was my point. So read more before accusing people of being idiots.
Its actually pretty easy to find out what exactly a shrimp is made up of. If I cared enough to keep this going any longer I would go look it up. Point is, you CAN use cooked foods for your purpose (T1) as long as you are also using pellets, and the ratio of pellets to cooked shrimp is right. Too much cooked shrimp and not enough pellet will also result in deficiency.
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It doesn't matter we all do things our own way
Some add magic vitamin dust some feed pellets some feed raw some feed cooked
I have been feeding pellets and cooked prawn for years
The pellets give them all the good stuff and the cooked prawn is to fill them up or it would cost a fortune to fill up my rays with pellets alone
Anyway you guys can debate this as much as you like but I have to go back into hospital in the morning so I will leave you to it
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Some add magic vitamin dust some feed pellets some feed raw some feed cooked
I have been feeding pellets and cooked prawn for years
The pellets give them all the good stuff and the cooked prawn is to fill them up or it would cost a fortune to fill up my rays with pellets alone
Anyway you guys can debate this as much as you like but I have to go back into hospital in the morning so I will leave you to it
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Well, then there you go. You have left your opinion in this thread. I don't see a need for the same topic to be nitpicked to death.
The OP asked for opinions and thoughts. Leave yours and move on.
I really don't think the question has been answered with fact (vs. opinion, conjecture, etc.).
Anyone have good links to actual scientific research on the impact of heat / refrigeration on shrimp nutrition?
I recall a really good thread some time ago but can't find it.
Matt
Anyone have good links to actual scientific research on the impact of heat / refrigeration on shrimp nutrition?
I recall a really good thread some time ago but can't find it.
Matt
I feed cooked prawns from ASDA Jim - it's about £10 per kilo where as raw is around £15 a kilo.
I'm thinking of selling a leg or an arm on the £10 per kilo never mind the thought of £15 a kilo.
The rays bellies are very full which i know has nothing to do with nutritional value but they do get full and seem happy and fat.
Raw contain 9g of protein per 100g and cooked contain 15g of protein per 100g (for my brands)
I can't see it being that detrimental being cooked
I'm thinking of selling a leg or an arm on the £10 per kilo never mind the thought of £15 a kilo.
The rays bellies are very full which i know has nothing to do with nutritional value but they do get full and seem happy and fat.
Raw contain 9g of protein per 100g and cooked contain 15g of protein per 100g (for my brands)
I can't see it being that detrimental being cooked
I won't feed my fish, cats or dogs cooked food as a rule. My cat will have tuna out of the can once a month and my dog might get a small piece of cooked meat once every few weeks.
For almost all my fish it's raw or pellets, although for herbivores, I'll sometimes blanch certain veggies for digestibility.
I'm sure it's possible to feed fish cooked foods. If it was not to abundance and and if it was balanced with highly nutritious pellets or other foods, the overall impact might not be noticed. If the tank was otherwise pristine with sufficient space, the fish might indeed thrive compared to many other setups. It's a matter of how much cooked food is given and how the missing nutrients were replaced.
I would say a fish raised that way could be healthy and live a long life. It's possible they just might have lived longer and have been a bit healthier otherwise, but that's hard to say with any certainty if the amount of cooked food was only a portion of the diet. In the end, we all have to made tradeoffs on our pets.
For almost all my fish it's raw or pellets, although for herbivores, I'll sometimes blanch certain veggies for digestibility.
I'm sure it's possible to feed fish cooked foods. If it was not to abundance and and if it was balanced with highly nutritious pellets or other foods, the overall impact might not be noticed. If the tank was otherwise pristine with sufficient space, the fish might indeed thrive compared to many other setups. It's a matter of how much cooked food is given and how the missing nutrients were replaced.
I would say a fish raised that way could be healthy and live a long life. It's possible they just might have lived longer and have been a bit healthier otherwise, but that's hard to say with any certainty if the amount of cooked food was only a portion of the diet. In the end, we all have to made tradeoffs on our pets.
