This is today after settling in a bit.
In this next pic he is in the background with the Male Loisellei in front and one of my Dovii too.
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Friedrichsthalii or Motaguense or Loisellei?
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This is today after settling in a bit.
In this next pic he is in the background with the Male Loisellei in front and one of my Dovii too.
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I think it was confirmed that they are more akin to Freddy's than Loisellei's. Interesting fact since from looks, the male La Cieba have more in common with Male Loisellei's while the females look more like female freddies.
Better to just keep calling them the "La Ceiba" or "Rio Danto" since you KNOW that its not your standard Parachromis Fredrichsthalii or Loisellei.
Drew, is the bottom picture a standard Freddy? If so, that makes me reconsider my opinion on them. They look awesome!
Better to just keep calling them the "La Ceiba" or "Rio Danto" since you KNOW that its not your standard Parachromis Fredrichsthalii or Loisellei.
Drew, is the bottom picture a standard Freddy? If so, that makes me reconsider my opinion on them. They look awesome!
Until the DNA comes in, I'd go with Parachromis cf. fredichsthali "La Ceiba" myself. Always better to treat things as separate species until you know for sure, especially with how crazy DNA results are.
One other thing... when I bought my La Ceiba from Rapps a few years ago he listed them as Parachromis Fiedrichsthalii "La Ceiba Yellowhead". I don't know much about DNA testing... curious tho...
Those pics are very nice... all the fish in there look good!!
Those pics are very nice... all the fish in there look good!!
Parachromis sp. "La Ceiba" I do not believe they have been officially described and therefore can be argued into either species by us in the hobby. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the population persists in the wild, making it unlikely to draw enough scrutiny from icthyologists and taxonomists. I do not have either species, but it would be interesting to get scale counts, spine counts and other meristic data from known "La Ceiba" and compare with various P. friedrichsthalii varieties, P. loisellei, and for good measure, P. motaguensis. A study of phylogenetics within Parachromis would be awesome. We would then know which species' are more closely related to one another, and we can even establish a time table for speciation events, giving us our extant groups today.
African Rift Lake cichlids get all the evolutionary lime light, but the New World cichlids deserve some too!
African Rift Lake cichlids get all the evolutionary lime light, but the New World cichlids deserve some too!
They were compared to classic Freddy's by Dr. Paul Loiselle, and using classic taxonomy they are indeed P. friedrichsthalii ... the problem is when scientists use the DNA, it throws out classic taxonomy out the window and runs it over with the garbage truck, backs over it, rinse and repeats about 30 times.
30 times? Are you serious?!