Pitbutll Mauls 4 Yr Old Boy

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As I used to breed these impressive animals. I'd have to say you get your good with your bad and this dog should be put down. Some APBT's are ticking time bombs its just the way it is. But as a owner I'd say it was the owners fault as I have a aggressive female that is not allowed to go out unsupervised cause she will jump the 6' fence with ease and I'd hate for someone to get bit... Hope the kids gets well soon,sad story for both the dog and the kid


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This dog has probably lived its whole life outside chained to a tree in Arizona. I don't know if any of you have been to AZ in the summer but it is no joke and very unpleasant. Which in my opinion is abuse. Poor dog. All he probably had out there was his bone. I'd be mad too. Again the dog should be handed over to someone that can rehabilitate it.



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ehh said:
This dog has probably lived its whole life outside chained to a tree in Arizona. I don't know if any of you have been to AZ in the summer but it is no joke and very unpleasant. Which in my opinion is abuse. Poor dog. All he probably had out there was his bone. I'd be mad too. Again the dog should be handed over to someone that can rehabilitate it.



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There's a chance at rehabilitation but that animal won't be near other animals and shouldn't be near most people. Its a time bomb. Unsocialized, probably genetically predisposed to having a weird temperament, combined with abuse makes him unsuitable for anyone but the most dog savvy trainers out there

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ehh said:
I'm gonna rant.

Given that the dog was chained up I wouldn't be surprised if it abused on some level. I'm sure it never received positive attention from the owners. I'm sure it was kept outside whether it was snowing or 100+ degree weather.
They should give the dog to someone that wants to have it as will take the time to work with it and get rid of the aggression. And not put the dog to sleep because it has been irresponsibly taken care of for so long.
If anyone wants to argue that pits are naturally aggressive and it should be put down then answer this: if your kid sticks his/her hand in your dovii tank and loses a finger, whos fault is it?


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ehh said:
This dog has probably lived its whole life outside chained to a tree in Arizona. I don't know if any of you have been to AZ in the summer but it is no joke and very unpleasant. Which in my opinion is abuse. Poor dog. All he probably had out there was his bone. I'd be mad too. Again the dog should be handed over to someone that can rehabilitate it.



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Did you read a different article than me? How are you sure the dog was abused? How do you know the dog recieved no positive attention? How are you sure it was left outside regardless of weather? How do you know it had nothing more than its bone? If this was the case then I agree that rehabilitation with a proper owner may be an option, but none of those scenarios were mentioned in the article I read.

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ehh said:
I'm gonna rant.

Given that the dog was chained up I wouldn't be surprised if it abused on some level. I'm sure it never received positive attention from the owners. I'm sure it was kept outside whether it was snowing or 100+ degree weather.
They should give the dog to someone that wants to have it as will take the time to work with it and get rid of the aggression. And not put the dog to sleep because it has been irresponsibly taken care of for so long.
If anyone wants to argue that pits are naturally aggressive and it should be put down then answer this: if your kid sticks his/her hand in your dovii tank and loses a finger, whos fault is it?
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Hello; I have contributed to these dog threads before and suspect it will be closed soon. If I recall correctly some of the moderators are strongly on the side that champions the dogs.

That said, there are at least two issues with regard to your question. First is the responsibility portion. Any one having a dangerious animal is responsible for housing it in such a way that the environment is safe for people, especially children. This is perhaps more of a matter of being legaly responsible. Thus the blanket response that it is the "irresponsible owners" fault can almost always be applied to one degree or another.

The second issue has to do with what your statement implies. Pointedly that you recognize that a dovi poses a risk to fingers. That level of recognition about the dangers of some dogs is apparently absent when people think about their dogs. This point has been argued on this forum to the extreme. Some will not under any circumstance allow for the notion that some breeds have a greater tendency to bite, maul and kill than others. I have posted the results of studies, one by the Centers For Disease Control, that back this up but there are many people that reject them out of hand. I will add the links at the end of my post for reference. That some dog breeds are more often involved in fatal maulings than the majority of all the other breeds is a matter of record. Ther must be something to this, it is not likely that these two breeds are just unlucky in having a very great concentration of irresponsible owners.

That you understand the risk with a dovii likely means you will take the extra precautions needed to secure the tank from children. Some dog owners apparently only see a loving family pet and turn a blind eye to the real potential for harm. They apparently "love" the dog and this clouds the issue. They do not take the needed precautions. Some have stated that their pittbull might "lick someone to death" and seem not to see the reality of the damage that such an animal can do.

If everyone kept their large dogs in a safe and secure manner at all times, then these mauling reports would be so much more rare.


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Meh..this is a tricky one.simply because the kid was only there because thats where the baby sitter was.

I dont think every dog that bites someone should be put down especially if its in their own yard.

The kid (a stranger) was taking something that didnt belong to him - the dog reacted. (the sameway any human would, with confrontation)
However its not the kids fault because to a 4yr old every animal is a 'friend'

I say the babysitter is responsible and should pay the medical bills since had she been doing her job (making sure nothing happens to the kid) he wouldn't have made it outside to the dog.

I mean he was chained and content with his bone. He didn't escape and free roam causing a bloody massacre. Or bait the kid over to him just to rip into him.

As a pitbull owner my dog WILL attack anyone that shows violence towards me or my family, or any stranger who enters the house. I have to introduce them right away or she thinks its an intruder. And this is EXACTLY why she's there. She's not a mindless killer that everyone portrays Pitbulls to be. Its a crazy world filled with crazy people. Pitbulls are the least of our worries.

All i can say is - take better care of your dogs, take time to train them and stop with the "pitbulls are the devil" crap.

Pay close attention to ANY kid around ANY dog.


--also on the flip side, i think people imagine a gruesome painful death when they hear "put down" ..like theyre gonna beat the dog with a hammer or something. Its not like that. Very quick, calm and peaceful and depending on your religious beliefs the dog goes to a "much better place" ye? which for this particular guy might be better for him considering the surroundings he's living in.

in conclusion- if i was the judge id say take the dog from owners and let a more enthusiastic responsible loving person adopt him (without kids) have babysitter/owner split medical bills. then slam the gavel down more times than necessary yelling "ORDER IN THE COURT!!!"
 
I think the reason the dog gained a surge in supporters was because someone working at the shelter posted on facebook something along the lines that "this dog is going night night". Instead of being professional about it, he publicly made it seems like he was looking forward to taking pleasure in watching the dog be put down. Needless to say, he has been removed or suspended from his position (or something like that). Understandably, his statement may be seen as slightly morbid and cruel by certain animal lovers. Also, people who advocate for rehab instead of euthanasia were probably pissed off at his childish remarks. Whether the dog should be euthanized is up to the courts/laws, but you don't rub it in people's faces that feel differently. I do feel that the owners of the dog or whoever put that dog and child in a situation where something like this could occur should be held responsible as well. A dog, by definition is private property. If your private property, whether it is a gun, a car, whatever it maybe, causes injury or death to someone-you are responsible. At the very least that person should be investigated to make sure that they took every reasonable measure necessary to prevent an incident like this from occurring or else they are guilty of negligence.
 
ballinouttacntrol said:
^ your pit would bite a 4 year old that wonders into your yard or house?
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I think you're talking to me?
i can't be 100% sure if she'd defend against a non threatening child as its never happened.
Keep in mind i have 8' privacy fences with one gate that is padlocked at all times. A 4yr old can't "wander" into my yard. If someone is in my yard its deliberate and with intent. So if a random kid walks inside my house or scales an 8foot wall without parents noticing i say their parents should be jailed LOL
 
And let keep in mind this was a chained dog, dogs on a chain are more aggressive because they can't get away. Add to that the probable resource guarding the dog was doing

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