Camaro Firebreather

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Camaro was on my short list of car considerations and after I took a good close look and test drove one it nearly was scratched off lol...the pillars hinder visibility but I couldn't get used to the ugly interior with the instrument layout,four small gauges that are all the way down by the shifter.I'm all for a throwback look when it is done right but for my tastes the retro treatment ends with the interior and the cockpit area has to be up with the times and well laid out.
 
The new camaro is an ergonomics nightmare. Being in and out of different cars all day every day, im not quite sure what they were thinking when designing the new camaro. Example: im not super tall, 6', yet when sitting in a camaro I cant see the top of the tach or speedometer because the sun shade rings are weird and in the way. Lower my seat so I can see the gauges and the window line is at my shoulder and visibility goes from horrible to none. Nevermind the lightest GM seems to be able to make one is 3800 lbs. Thats not light. At all. And they sacrificed AC and a radio for that...

Well you got me there as I have yet to drive one of the new ones. Yes 3800 lbs is a lot for a track car, but we're talking about a car that usually is a daily driver and only sees the track on the weekends.
 
No radio or A/C in a daily driver?
 
who wants a daily driver without any sound deadening material, track slicks, no AC and no radio? that's hardcore stuff. read about another car they deleted that stuff from, a Lamborghini sesto elemento and it saved 750 lbs... from a 2950 pound superlight version already. yes the lambo has extensive use of carbon and taken a bit more extreme, but it is also more powerful and still AWD. just think sometimes the powers that be need to stop and think about what they are doing sometimes.
 
Camaro was on my short list of car considerations and after I took a good close look and test drove one it nearly was scratched off lol...the pillars hinder visibility but I couldn't get used to the ugly interior with the instrument layout,four small gauges that are all the way down by the shifter.I'm all for a throwback look when it is done right but for my tastes the retro treatment ends with the interior and the cockpit area has to be up with the times and well laid out.

I sat in one but don't really remember the interior, but I do know they put a gauge cluster down by the shifter because that's where they were in the first Camaros. The A pillar blocking visibility does suck, but I have the same problem, probably worse with my Camry.
 
I sat in one but don't really remember the interior, but I do know they put a gauge cluster down by the shifter because that's where they were in the first Camaros.

Yeah I figured that,it probably was a bad design idea years ago too lol,and I could have forgave the pillars but not that dash.Like I said earlier,the retro treatment has to stop in that area lol.
 
who wants a daily driver without any sound deadening material, track slicks, no AC and no radio? that's hardcore stuff. read about another car they deleted that stuff from, a Lamborghini sesto elemento and it saved 750 lbs... from a 2950 pound superlight version already. yes the lambo has extensive use of carbon and taken a bit more extreme, but it is also more powerful and still AWD. just think sometimes the powers that be need to stop and think about what they are doing sometimes.

Alright birch, could you show us where you're getting some of these numbers, specifically the weight and options numbers? I've never heard of a daily driver without sound deadener, ac, or a radio.
You brought up the Lambo, you cannot compare the two at all. They are 2 different classes of cars. You mentioned slicks also. Slicks are for drag racing, Lambos belong on a road course, or something like that. Lamborghinis are a joke on the drag strip, but shine on a road course. I will also bet that $100000 car doesn't ride half as nice as the Camaro.
 
From late 70s on it was all Chevy except the badging since GM stopped making engined specifically for Pontiac. Prior to that they were the same car with slightly different body panels and different engines.


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Back then Chevrolet was putting their motors in Buicks and Oldsmobiles also.
 
Back then Chevrolet was putting their motors in Buicks and Oldsmobiles also.

Not to be picky but it wasn't chevy doing anything, GM decided to reduce the number of different engines they were producing and chose to put chevy engines in everything. They still do the same today


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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/27/2014-chevy-camaro-z28-new-york/

the first I read was a yahoo article. google Camaro z28 and theres plenty of info on it. I know a chevy and lambo aren't exactly comparable, my point being few companies attempt to build a car without the necessities, and when they do, the result should be quite special. I also read somewhere that the car came with "street legal slicks" because it is intended as a track car and pretty much only a track car.
 
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