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Just my two pennies worth, but avoid a standard motoro. They get massive and are pretty bland looking.
As suggested above, look for a marble, stay smaller, look way way better.
Or go for true hystrix, even smaller but still attain a decent size, great markings.
Don't bother with wild caught especially if it's your first ray, captive bred will certainly be easier for cutting your teeth on ray keeping.
Don't think anyone has expressed hate as such, just sound advise.Not sure if I like all the hate regarding Motoros my first Ray was a motoro it fully rolled claspers n stopped growing at 12" , he had similer personality to that of my mini marble I have now , but it was bloody noisy constantly grabbing air from surface