Yeah Ive read that some people have had slime coat issues with API Stress Coat but if you have been using prime for 5 months then thats not it.
Endli shaking off slime coat
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DMD123 has an endli so what's your point? I agree with what they've been saying, they're taking other things into consideration as well. No need to be stubborn, they are just trying to help you. Saying they lack experience when you don't know their experience is kind of rude.
I didn't say he lacked experience. I'm just asking about specific endli experience that I can cross reference against mine to maybe find a solution I'm not aware of. Obviously stress is the first port if call so I ruled that out by stating there's no aggression or water quality issues. I also accept that the tank is overstocked right now but it's only reached this point recently and is in hand but the problem has always been there anyway.
What I don't accept is a) that im a liar (about water quality) and b) that I should sell certain fish because some people couldn't make it work or worse they read it doesn't work. Well that's kinda what this hobby is about...keeping 1,2,3....apex predators successfully is risky and against the usual order of things. Some fail where some succeed and the reason is usually down to the personality of the fish so telling me to get rid of MY fish is like me telling you to get rid of your dog because that species once bit your cousins grannies uncle. You'd tell me to gtfo.lol I get some are incompatible down to biological/physiological needs that can't be balanced but some supposed incompatibility can be overcome. That's what I'm here for...practical solutions for success, not to be to give up and buy a goldish
or sit there with an half ass empty tank.
So once again. Anyone had any bichir disease illness etc especially related to slime coat? Or any adverse effects of inbreeding full stop would be nice to know
Taking your word that water quality isnt an issue how do you know aggression isnt the problem just bwcause you dont see it ? Allot of times is happens after lights out ? Even if it isnt actual aggression maybe its stress from over crowding. I know its not a good feeling when someone says your over stocked but no need to get angry everyone is trying to help.
Put the endli in its own tank and see if still happens. I hope you would post your findings
lol I own polys who are quite healthy with no slime coat issues. Am I underqualified because my fish aren't sick? "drops mic"
being a jackass aside, and taking your word your water in that tank with all those big fish is immaculate, I'm sticking with aggression.
you have at least 2-3 fish in there that I'm willing to bet are mean SOB's at night when you aren't watching. just because there are no physical wounds yet (key word, yet) doesn't mean it isn't happening. Bichirs are tough little suckers, but if he's being harassed all night, I'd place a bet on that being the issue here.
Also, you aren't going to get advice past the fact that you are keeping WAY too many fish in a tiny tank. Those of us in the hobby that give a damn about the animals we keep are going to call people out on bad practices, just saying.
being a jackass aside, and taking your word your water in that tank with all those big fish is immaculate, I'm sticking with aggression.
you have at least 2-3 fish in there that I'm willing to bet are mean SOB's at night when you aren't watching. just because there are no physical wounds yet (key word, yet) doesn't mean it isn't happening. Bichirs are tough little suckers, but if he's being harassed all night, I'd place a bet on that being the issue here.
Also, you aren't going to get advice past the fact that you are keeping WAY too many fish in a tiny tank. Those of us in the hobby that give a damn about the animals we keep are going to call people out on bad practices, just saying.
Bit of a shocker actually. One the tank size second that no damage being done by mbu yet.
You got some good advice from the memebers here and I'm talking about practical advice. The kind you're looking for.
It maybe lost in the thread because of so called emotions and distracting words.
The tanks are overstocked and this is echoed b/c it what's likely causing the slinecoat issue.
Stress to polys can do it. Over agressive fish, water quality etc.
For you even with ur prime and 10xp/h. I believe ur water parameters goes up quick between water changes.This alone can give ur poly slime coat issues. Not to mention the grouo of fish you keep together. Maybe it's a faulty kit.
The obvious things that should be changed and likely causes that are smacking memebers in the face are ur stock, size of tank, and the sick fish.
There is no quick fix for you. But as jaws said. Separate ur endli and keep the after clean with salt and if it gets better then it's ur tank.
Then that's on you. Best of luck.
It maybe lost in the thread because of so called emotions and distracting words.
The tanks are overstocked and this is echoed b/c it what's likely causing the slinecoat issue.
Stress to polys can do it. Over agressive fish, water quality etc.
For you even with ur prime and 10xp/h. I believe ur water parameters goes up quick between water changes.This alone can give ur poly slime coat issues. Not to mention the grouo of fish you keep together. Maybe it's a faulty kit.
The obvious things that should be changed and likely causes that are smacking memebers in the face are ur stock, size of tank, and the sick fish.
There is no quick fix for you. But as jaws said. Separate ur endli and keep the after clean with salt and if it gets better then it's ur tank.
Then that's on you. Best of luck.
I totally forgot to add this but a couple of months ago i purchase an endli the fish was very stressed in qt and was shedding its slime coat... when i added her to the main tank again started shedding her slime coat once she settled in she no long had this issue.
Both instances were braught on by stress
Both instances were braught on by stress
So While I somewhat agree with your argument about keeping multiple predators, I disagree in how you are approaching it. This is my point of view so do with it what you will. Most of us here on MFK at one point or another have tried to do what you are describing, and it is very possible. One things people tend to lose focus on is the individual needs of the fish. Some of the fish you are keeping regardless of how they are behaving now, need bigger tanks. Another thing I think your looking past with too much ease is the aggression factor. With a good bit of those fish in there, if you aren't already experiencing it (which may be debatable as aggression can be nocturnal) then you will in the future. I understand that you want to be quick to dismiss these claims of being over stocked, bad water quality, and aggression, but by doing so you may be passing up the necessary information needed to find the solution to your problem. I think you know as well, that you are overstocked to a degree, and while you may not have seen aggression it is very possible so I would try and while some of this information may not be pleasant to hear it may be what is needed to figure out what is wrong with your fish.
Getting to your other questions I have QT'd a couple WC senegals before and used some parasitic, fungal, and bacterial meds before. During this process toward the beginning they would get a very slime looking substance coming off of them. It looked almost as if they were covered in mucus and it was gradually coming off. Like Jaws, I would tie this to stress. If we compare these pass situations to your's then we can also tie it to stress. Before we do that though, can you give some more detail as to what the slime looks like, how long it's been there, and what you mean by it covers the whole tank?
