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Yes and no. While I find the slaughter hard to watch, I feel it is no different than that of the slaughter of chicken or cows, that we do here everyday. I just don't find whale/dolphin any more endearing than chickens or cows. As long as an animal(not human being) is slaughtered for food, I don't really have an issue with it........otherwise I would be a hypocrite, since I am a major carnivore. There are PETA folks who feels just as passionate about the slaughter of USA farm animals, as "The Cove" makers feels about whales/dolphins. With the exception of humans, I, personally, just don't feel any one creature is more sacred than another......a life is a life.
I agree with you but it seems the Japanese kill for more marine mammals than they need.
 
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I agree with you but it seems the Japanese kill for more marine mammals than they need.
It think it comes down to supply and demand......economics........making money. I don't feel its about the joy of killing living things
 
It think it comes down to supply and demand......economics........making money. I don't feel its about the joy of killing living things
Yeah,I too doubt it's anything like that.
 
Recently someone was videotaped beating a pregnant monk seal on a beach, usually stem from conflicts with fishing or gill netting.

To me some of the marine mammals just seem to have that glimmer of intelligence and emotion, I havent noticed from many farm animals like chickens
 
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Yes and no. While I find the slaughter hard to watch, I feel it is no different than that of the slaughter of chicken or cows, that we do here everyday. I just don't find whale/dolphin any more endearing than chickens or cows. As long as an animal(not human being) is slaughtered for food, I don't really have an issue with it........otherwise I would be a hypocrite, since I am a major carnivore. There are PETA folks who feels just as passionate about the slaughter of USA farm animals, as "The Cove" makers feels about whales/dolphins. With the exception of humans, I, personally, just don't feel any one creature is more sacred than another......a life is a life.

I agree with you but it seems the Japanese kill for more marine mammals than they need.
Recently someone was videotaped beating a pregnant monk seal on a beach, usually stem from conflicts with fishing or gill netting.

To me some of the marine mammals just seem to have that glimmer of intelligence and emotion, I havent noticed from many farm animals like chickens
The problem isn't entirely that it's barbaric and inhumane (while it really is), they don't differentiate between endangered species and stable populations. On several documentaries all stated that the big deal is WHAT species they are slaughtering - these species are already in jeopardy of extinction and they still harvest them anyway and won't even consider targeting marine mammals that are not listed under Appendix 1 or 2. We're not saying they can't take some whales just not the ENDANGERED WHALES. They may have already doomed them to extinction as we speak.

Unfortunately the same can not be said for Tigers, Rhinos, Elephants, etc - they are ALL endangered
 
its the same argument bad bass fishermen make when they club a pike or musky. "Theyre eatin' all the game fish!"
no you just cant catch any gamefish you dumb bastard.

That's true in their native range but I can tell you first hand that invasive (illegally introduced) pike are a huge problem up here. These systems are designed for trout, char, salmon and such. When pike get established that's the end of that.
 
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That's true in their native range but I can tell you first hand that invasive (illegally introduced) pike are a huge problem up here. These systems are designed for trout, char, salmon and such. When pike get established that's the end of that.
I remember a program on that and they did a purge of catch-and-kill as many pike as they could in Alaska and as they had to close down Salmon fishing entirely 2 years ago (my uncles actually were there for Salmon when it happened), almost every pike's stomach contents were young salmon or other native fish. Invasives are a different story and need to be kept in check, like our Flathead Catfish here in the Delaware Watershed
 
Everything and everybody eats salmon up here pike are really good at it and they supplant the native predators and cause the ecosystem to collapse. Then they can go cannibal to survive and keep the system from bouncing back.

We had some numbskull a few years back think it would be cool to put yellow perch in the lake by our house. Fish and game had to poison the lake a few years later since the perch adapted to the cold and survived the winters even when the lake froze over.

God is a lot better at designing these things than we are. Every time we fiddle with it there is nothing but problems. Look at Hawaii, Australia, etc.
 
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I remember a program on that and they did a purge of catch-and-kill as many pike as they could in Alaska and as they had to close down Salmon fishing entirely 2 years ago (my uncles actually were there for Salmon when it happened), almost every pike's stomach contents were young salmon or other native fish. Invasives are a different story and need to be kept in check, like our Flathead Catfish here in the Delaware Watershed
That reminds me of what was done to Lake Victoria in Africa when the Nile Perch was introduced there.
 
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