Lacerdae hoplias ID?

[JacobWhitley]

Yea...this thread is till going. I thought it was over but good to see some good discussion going on.

Like others said likely a lac.

One thing I will mention is that Ken did mention there are cf malas there. Also in prior threads and replies from Felipe himself he mentions there are malas there as well.

Fish farm mentioned this earlier in the post to find.

Years ago there were lacs and aus coming to owners on this forum. The location was never found by me on searches and I don't recall. Getting old as this morning I confused a minion and a meme lol. They lacs were identified as intermedius.

These guys have the jaw folds in b/w a u and v. I wonder if these are the same and their distribution needs to be re-evaluated.

These fish will have 4-6 pores on the lower jaw with a fold in b/w a u and a v and they are differentiated by their scale counts. They look like lacs as well. But I've see. Intermedius look like the red guys that Wes brought in and regret giving away. Intermedius are not readily available at all. By the way I have never seen a brasi yet so not sure. I know of one guy with a confirmed inter and will ask if I can use his pics.

Brave heart when he was on the forum ID'd a few himself on the forum
Check the pic below. Let me add more confusion to the already confused.

Shadow Stryker forget go back and look at DB's lac, Lucy. Your fire will be re-ignited.


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I know this thread is old but Id like to ID this for you it looks like a Hoplias australis

 

[kno4te]

That photo is of a proven intermedius that went to Asia, years and years ago.

The takeaway is IDs need to be done of up close and out of tanks. There's too much movement of the fish's jaw to make a good ID.

 

[JacobWhitley]

That photo is of a proven intermedius that went to Asia, years and years ago.

The takeaway is IDs need to be done of up close and out of tanks. There's too much movement of the fish's jaw to make a good ID.

proven by whom?

 

[kno4te]

The fish itself was sent to Asia and was ID'd by the exporter themselves. This was years ago and was told me to by the person who took the photo and of the larger full grown adult.

The same fish as an adult or sub adult looks Intermedius.

Should have used better words and not proven.

 

[Red Aimara]

I am in the early talking stage to bring in a mid sized Lacerdae (fingers crossed it will happen).

Had went thru this thread a couple of times too to learn more about Hoplias identification.

Those who are keeping Lacerdaes, do post and update your current fishes. It has been awhile.

 

[moe214]

I am in the early talking stage to bring in a mid sized Lacerdae (fingers crossed it will happen).

Had went thru this thread a couple of times too to learn more about Hoplias identification.

Those who are keeping Lacerdaes, do post and update your current fishes. It has been awhile.

I'd love to see some lacs as well, but doesn't seem to many people have confirmed lacs..

 

[Red Aimara]

About 3 years too late but I hope the wolves people are onboard to help with with this:




First pic showing the under jaw and 2 showing the body shape and patches. Not the best of quality but the burning question:

Is this a true Lacerdae?

 

[kno4te]

About 3 years too late but I hope the wolves people are onboard to help with with this:

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First pic showing the under jaw and 2 showing the body shape and patches. Not the best of quality but the burning question:

Is this a true Lacerdae?

Yes. Can see the folds under the jaw that are parallel. Also the color pattern on the side.

 

[Red Aimara]

Yes. Can see the folds under the jaw that are parallel. Also the color pattern on the side.

Sincere thanks and hope I get a shot to have everything in order.

 

[Dloks]

About 3 years too late but I hope the wolves people are onboard to help with with this:

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First pic showing the under jaw and 2 showing the body shape and patches. Not the best of quality but the burning question:
Is this a true Lacerdae?

100% Lac, the body, the undeniable “spoon” head on Lacs and aimaras. The ones in questions are the “Red Rio tapajos” Aimaras.