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I agree with you, when I got mine at 3-4" I fed it strictly live that I would quarantine and fatten up with pellets and I'd feed them pellets right before putting them in as well, don't know if I'm correct but it was like stuffing shrimp with pellets, figured she'd get the nutrients from the pellets as well.. she grew probably 1.5"-2" a month till 8" where she slowed down to more like 1" a month and then when she hit ten inches she got thicker and growth has slowed to very little she's probably about 1' now.

I've heard similar stories with raising the chinese yellow cheek.
 
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What do you think it is about live that creates faster growth? I'll politely disagree. I don't feed live and see very good growth from my predators.
I have the same experience as you but I'm thinking exercising their killer extinct my help. ????
 
What do you think it is about live that creates faster growth? I'll politely disagree. I don't feed live and see very good growth from my predators.
I also disagree, my previous odo pike I got on pellets immediately and got 1.5-2" of growth a month up until 9-10" .
 
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What do you think it is about live that creates faster growth? I'll politely disagree. I don't feed live and see very good growth from my predators.
Maybe it's the fish then, with mine she was a very greedy fish when I fed live, I'd drop them in and she'd snap them up before the could move, she'd eat so many at a time, once I moved her to pellets and freeze dried food she stopped this, she was. I longer in a rush to eat, maybe cause she has no real competition the wolf eats if the bottom mostly with the bichirs, some of the bichirs came up to eat a little like the wolf but they were slow with it. I'd say her appetite changed for sure.

I also disagree, my previous odo pike I got on pellets immediately and got 1.5-2" of growth a month up until 9-10" .
This is good to hear then, everyone else has experienced more of a 1" per month growth rate on pellets, maybe it's more of genetics or just the specific fish's appetite
 
Maybe it's the fish then, with mine she was a very greedy fish when I fed live, I'd drop them in and she'd snap them up before the could move, she'd eat so many at a time, once I moved her to pellets and freeze dried food she stopped this, she was. I longer in a rush to eat, maybe cause she has no real competition the wolf eats if the bottom mostly with the bichirs, some of the bichirs came up to eat a little like the wolf but they were slow with it. I'd say her appetite changed for sure.


This is good to hear then, everyone else has experienced more of a 1" per month growth rate on pellets, maybe it's more of genetics or just the specific fish's appetite
Its possible, I always thought that it was competition that made my old one eat as much and grow as fast as it did. I grew it out with a small datnoid that also grew pretty fast for a datnoid.
 
Mine ate all day long on guppy fry and red cherry shrimp, because the tank was full of them.

When you feed pellets, you feed maybe in the morning before work, and at night. That's less food averaged over the day.

If you use an auto-feeder for during daytime, then leftovers will likely spoil your water quality.

Lastly, there is more to nutrition than calories and vitamins. Guppy fry has growth hormones etc that young predators will benefit from. Whole life fish and shrimp have gut flora that dry food cannot provide.

Once your fish are older, all of this makes less of a difference.
 
Mine ate all day long on guppy fry and red cherry shrimp, because the tank was full of them.

When you feed pellets, you feed maybe in the morning before work, and at night. That's less food averaged over the day.

If you use an auto-feeder for during daytime, then leftovers will likely spoil your water quality.

Lastly, there is more to nutrition than calories and vitamins. Guppy fry has growth hormones etc that young predators will benefit from. Whole life fish and shrimp have gut flora that dry food cannot provide.

Once your fish are older, all of this makes less of a difference.
Just for an opposing view..... When I kept oscars 30 years ago I would keep feeders with them. Having the food always available actually seemed to cause them to eat less. They became desensitized to having their prey constantly available and lost that excitement they normally exhibit when they first notice food. I see your thought process about the hormones but the predators have their own growth hormones and eating another live fish wouldn't offer much benefit after it goes through their digestive system. Flora is beneficial for GI health but not so much for muscle/skeletal growth.

My current odoe has gone from 1.5" to 6" in a few months on a diet of chopped fish/worms and pellets.

You're obviously doing something right as you're bred odoes I just wanted to through in my 2 cents.
 
Mine ate all day long on guppy fry and red cherry shrimp, because the tank was full of them.

When you feed pellets, you feed maybe in the morning before work, and at night. That's less food averaged over the day.

If you use an auto-feeder for during daytime, then leftovers will likely spoil your water quality.

Lastly, there is more to nutrition than calories and vitamins. Guppy fry has growth hormones etc that young predators will benefit from. Whole life fish and shrimp have gut flora that dry food cannot provide.

Once your fish are older, all of this makes less of a difference.
Idk man correct me if I'm wrong but, you are what you eat, meaning guppy fry and shrimp don't have much more nutrition than what they are fed.....dry food unless you are feeding wc feeders.
 
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