Fingers crossed for my Magma and KK breeding....

[Man-made Monsters]

So my Magma male was born in March of 2016 so he will be one year old soon. My King Kamfa Female is over 1.5 years old. She lays eggs every 20 days. My Magma is a complete psychopath!! He appears calm and swims majestically through the water and then he will go Hulk aggressive and start slamming the divider so hard that you hear a thud eco in our house. The strength of this 7 inch male is truly amazing. My last King SRD grew to a magnificent 11 inches and was 3 inches thick, yet he did not exhibit the strength and aggression of this Magma. The last two attempts at breeding did not to go very smoothly. I even tried the slide the rock under the divider trick to see if he would fertilize the eggs. It did not work. These two have never bred before so I'm being patient. Their offspring should be amazing!!!

 

[Man-made Monsters]

Comments and any thoughts or experience you would like to share are welcome. Sharing experiences is one of the many ways we enjoy this hobby together........

 

[johntran216]

Holy cow, amazing pair. That female is incredible. Very rare to see koky female kamfa. You probably already know this, but the more mature the male, the better your chances are. I also don't have any luck with sliding the plate/rock over. Do they not get along when you try lifting the divider? From my experience, most mature males won't attack unless the female initiates the aggression.

 

[fisheatfish]

Very nice pair...that female is awesome!

I've had overly aggressive males that have harmed and killed my females when I was breeding flowerhorns. You'll know if they're compatible within the first few minutes you remove the divider. The first sign of the male attacking the female, it's time to separate them or the male will become even more aggressive as the female tries to get away...as if he feeds his aggression on her fear of him.

I have two tricks that has worked for me:
The first is to remove the female into another tank so they cannot see or sense one another for a few days, then reintroduce...may take a few tries. Also try without the divider by throwing the female right in...don't give the male a chance to build his aggression.
Second, i resorted to this when I've exhausted everything and it worked for me...fish psychology if you would. Each time the male attacked my female, I had a blunt rod/stick to poke at the male's tail bone area. This should be done when the female is still showing interest in mating. This sort of simulates the female attacking the male in retaliation and standing her grounds. Similarly, an aggressive female prefers a dominant male. Eventually, my pair spawned successfully.

Key is not to walk away till you're certain they have paired. Good luck!

 

[Zmeflyby]

Very nice, someone offer to have me buy his 3 inch magma similar color and pearls to yours for $100.

Very tempted

 

[Man-made Monsters]

Holy cow, amazing pair. That female is incredible. Very rare to see koky female kamfa. You probably already know this, but the more mature the male, the better your chances are. I also don't have any luck with sliding the plate/rock over. Do they not get along when you try lifting the divider? From my experience, most mature males won't attack unless the female initiates the aggression.

They get along fine for 15-20 mins and then the male starts attacking the female. It is just the two of them in a 180 gallon so space is not an issue. He is very aggressive towards me and the female. Pretty much he is just a very aggressive male flower horn.

 

[Man-made Monsters]

Very nice pair...that female is awesome!

I've had overly aggressive males that have harmed and killed my females when I was breeding flowerhorns. You'll know if they're compatible within the first few minutes you remove the divider. The first sign of the male attacking the female, it's time to separate them or the male will become even more aggressive as the female tries to get away...as if he feeds his aggression on her fear of him.

I have two tricks that has worked for me:
The first is to remove the female into another tank so they cannot see or sense one another for a few days, then reintroduce...may take a few tries. Also try without the divider by throwing the female right in...don't give the male a chance to build his aggression.
Second, i resorted to this when I've exhausted everything and it worked for me...fish psychology if you would. Each time the male attacked my female, I had a blunt rod/stick to poke at the male's tail bone area. This should be done when the female is still showing interest in mating. This sort of simulates the female attacking the male in retaliation and standing her grounds. Similarly, an aggressive female prefers a dominant male. Eventually, my pair spawned successfully.

Key is not to walk away till you're certain they have paired. Good luck!

I am loving the idea of tapping him with a stick overtime when starts to get too rough with her. I should mention that this female is very aggressive and she will hold her own against other males i have had her with. Its just this Magma male that is super aggressive.

 

[Alexxxxsv14]

That is an awesome pair
Love females with big head. Good luck hope you get some fry

 

[Man-made Monsters]

That is an awesome pair
Love females with big head. Good luck hope you get some fry

Thank you, a few of my friends and I who have bred flower horn over the last several years have learned that if you want a lot of the offspring to have a big kok then the quality of the female really plays a big role in that. I have watched monster kok males breed with females that have no kok and then a large percent of the offspring don't develop a kok. Sure about 10% did develope a descent kok but nothing like the father. But then the same monster kok male breeds with a female that has a small kok and all of the sudden 50-70% percent of the off spring develope a huge kok. This has been my experience so I stand behind it. Thats not to say that the non-koky female didn't make nice pearly and colorful flowerhorns because she did, just not many with a kok.

 

[Alexxxxsv14]

I agree, definitely higher chances for kok if both parents have kok. It's all in the genes of the fish