The whole thing with the llegal aliens,sanctuary cities and the rest of it is for votes and nothing more.They don't care about those people they just want to cultivate them into legitimate voters for their side.
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I have yet to see anyone that is against what he is doing show us a country that has a lexed immigration policy as we have had in recent years.
Even the travel pause from the 7 countries in the middles east is another one rhey are all crying about....meanwhile this was done in the past during times of conflict they are just simply un-informed or purposely ignorant so they can push their political views
Meh he made his one comment not backed by any facts...wont see him for another 10 or 20 pages
Hello; I watch too much talk TV so get a lot of useless information. I believe it was C-SPAN the other day. They had two people on opposing sides of the immigrant issue in the USA.
One thing stuck in my memory.
According one fellow illegal immigrants receive around $24,000 in social benefits of one sort or another. They pay taxes around $10,000 worth. That leaves a net cost to other taxpayers of around $10,000 per year per illegal immigrant.
As to your question of how such a thing happens, I do not believe I can give you an accurate and concise answer. My guess likely to be missing some critical facts. I can speculate same as everyone else but others are covering both side of that .
It was a complete blanket ban on certain countries with extremist minorities, I'm kinda neutral on it since keeping tabs on potential terrorism is very taxing on intelligence services whilst it also caused a lot of disruption for many well wishing people
Complete ban travel pause all the same thing. No one has a right to travel to any one country its a privilege. I dont have a RIGHT to travel to south africa its a privilege that south africa allows me to visit. Same thing here and the facts of it are 7 countries not a blanket ban on any religion 7 countries listed. Again all of this was done in the past he is not inventing new laws or practices....but you have politics and a liberal media twisting the facts.
Unfortunately it's fairly obvious that the reason is Islamic extremism. I understand that it is done and has been but the reasons those countries are blocked for reasons of religion, it is understandable though that it's impossible to filter every extremist out and that's probably how it's going to stay.
I don't follow a 'liberal' media. My main source is the BBC news which in my opinion is quite unbiased and simply lays out the facts without bashing anyone. I consult a few other sources but I'm making my own opinion on these topics, if someone has something that makes more sense then I'll reconsider, I don't want to be an ass about it all
I don't follow a 'liberal' media. My main source is the BBC news which in my opinion is quite unbiased and simply lays out the facts without bashing anyone. I consult a few other sources but I'm making my own opinion on these topics, if someone has something that makes more sense then I'll reconsider, I don't want to be an ass about it all
I wasnt implying youwere following liberal media and didnt think you were being an ass just discussion.
Are ilegal immigrants in SA collecting $$$ from the govt ?
Of course the ban is related to extremism i dont think they are trying to hide it but again i still dont see what the hoopla is all about.
Hello; This is a sticky point. The issue is clouded by the fact that almost all ( maybe all) the people who have committed terrorists acts from these countries are known to be part of the religion. I heard it stated this way once - Not all muslums are terrorist, but all terrorists are muslum. That may not be a totally accurate statement, I don't know if all terrorists have been muslum. I think the point is by blocking potential terrorists from these countries, you then by default block folks of muslum faith.
There are two ways to look at it. One is that the intent is to block people due to their religion. The other is that the intent is to block potential terrorists only. Either way the results will look the same.
An example. Some folks believed the sun went around the earth. Other people believed the earth spun on it's axis and went around the sun. Two different theories but to a guy on earth watching sunrise to sunset either will fit his observation.
Hello; That is the point of the travel ban (to me anyway). That we do not have a good way to filter out the bad people right now. We may never be able to find all of them, but at least the effort should be made.
I'm just trying to clarify myself a bit. Don't wanna end up like carp in the discussion
I don't think so, they are usually deported again.
Just the disruption and discrimination it causes. Unfortunately it has to be done to preserve safety
S skjl47 it is sticky, but the majority of modern terrorists follow more uncivilised versions of islam, and it's difficult to root them out at this point. I'm thinking that it's just to keep the risk of potential Jihadis out of the country.
I agree
