Catfish ideas

[moe214]

Did you talk about the possibility of them out competing the jur feeding wise? If I were you I'd get all of them except the jur. Maybe try the jur as they grow and see how it goes. Then you satisfy everyone and if you feel it becomes over cramped or any other issues you can go from there. But ofcourse don't make any changes such as tehoming untill the bigger tank

 

[jaws7777]

Did you talk about the possibility of them out competing the jur feeding wise? If I were you I'd get all of them except the jur. Maybe try the jur as they grow and see how it goes. Then you satisfy everyone and if you feel it becomes over cramped or any other issues you can go from there. But ofcourse don't make any changes such as tehoming untill the bigger tank

Yes thats why they picked juruense last except for my daughter (shes only 4 lol)

Moe and koltsixx i didnt wanna derail moes thread can you guys te me a little more about the trachy trachy.

So you both kept them with jags and im assuming the trachy could definitly hange with the vulture.

Was the trachy more going than the jag ? Maybe do bolt, vulture, trachy, and sneak in a couple of jags (for a while atleast).

 

[Fish Tank Travis]

Wow, I've been busy and couldn't get on here for several days and man did this thread take off. Lol

I can't speak to all of the catfish mentioned here, but my vultures are very easy going with my fire eels. When the lights are on they stay put in their favorite corner, or perched on top of driftwood. When the lights go out, they swim constantly, a lot of times in the current along the sides of the tank. They will sometimes swim in the current during the day too, but usually retreat whenever someone walks near the tank. I do keep my lights off at all times though, unless feeding or watching them, so they never really get a chance to get used to the light. My eels swim all over them and compete with them for food and I have yet to see any aggression, even though my smallest eel is around 9". I got them from Jeff Rapps and they were about 5" and 6" when I got them. They are probably near 9" and 10" now, about 4 months later. They eat very well. I never have to worry about food being uneaten because as soon as the lights go out they eat everything. I have fed them hikari carnivore pellets (the smaller version of massivore), bloodworms, beef heart, raw shrimp, cooked shrimp, night crawlers, red wigglers, krill, and a few other things. They eat all of it. In addition, they are beautiful fish. They like to perch up in their "tripod" position and sit belly only on top of driftwood. They are definitely a great catfish to have.

 

[koltsixx]

Yes thats why they picked juruense last except for my daughter (shes only 4 lol)

Moe and koltsixx i didnt wanna derail moes thread can you guys te me a little more about the trachy trachy.

So you both kept them with jags and im assuming the trachy could definitly hange with the vulture.

Was the trachy more going than the jag ? Maybe do bolt, vulture, trachy, and sneak in a couple of jags (for a while atleast).

I agree with Moe on the jur. I think I mentioned it and TBTB as well as Moe they're not very food competitive and would probably have issues competing with a Bolt, Trachy or Vulture which are all very, very food competitive. The jags are the only other ones that might give me pause but that's because they can be so reclusive that they might starve to death if they find a hide they can squeeze into and aren't kept in a large enough number.

As for the Trachy that's like my signature fish. After years of promoting them they're finally catching on a little. Viktor/TBTB, moe, kno4te and maybe you now. IME Trachys are fine in a group or singly. They're confident enough that they don't suffer by being kept singly such as becoming more reclusive. In a group they might have minor skirmishes over hides but IME it's never serious just a lot of bluster. I will warn you though they do grunt very audibly when arguing with another Trachy or even at times other fish such as during feedings. I should also mention Jags grunt as well and for the same reasons.

Trachys are light haters but will easily adapt to eating out in the open during daylight hours as well as patroling. They enjoy a tight fitting hide. It makes them feel secure while resting. If you don't provide them a hide they may become restless searching for one. They also may dislodge any aquarium heaters or filter tubes by trying to squeeze behind them so they can feel like they're hiding. If you have more then one you may even find them trying to use each other as hides. Pushing underneath one another to try and get out of sight.

During feedings they are one of the first on the scene and are very pushy. They use their armored heads as battering rams to shove other fish away from food so they can get the lion share. All of mine where fine eating at the surface and easy to handfeed. Their vision is poor so handfeeding is done by training them to come to a certain part of the surface to get fed. Once they learn they'll head there with their mouths smacking loudly as they await you to come with their food. They will tolerate being touched but IME but tend to be skittish about it.

IME they aren't aggressive except mildly with one another over hides. I imagine this might extend to other woodcats as well. I personally never witnessed it as when I had them with my Guplers, Jags and Galeatus which are all woodcats I saw no aggression or skirmishes. However if a hide is big enough to include multiple cats they're very content to share as squeezing in next to other bodies seems to make them feel even more secure in their hide.

While not aggressive they are predatory and very unpredictable in that regard IME. Mine lived fine with small fish for long periods of time. I mean like years just to suddenly turn on smaller tankmates and devour them. My male and female even double teamed a larger Albino Clown Knife to take it down. This was the only instance of them attacking a larger fish and I think it's because the knife was so thin in comparison to many other fish.

In my humble opinion they are a great under rated cat. Personable because they can be so quirky. I've had them on occasion wearing aquarium ornaments as hats since they tried to squeeze in somewhere they couldn't get all the way through or under something that got caught on top of them. If it didn't impose their movement too much they'd often swim with said ornament rather then trying to get out of it. Only removing themselves when a better, meaning a hide they actually fit in was found.

 

[kno4te]

I've had trachy galeatus and was similar to current trachy trachy. As in being a vacuum cleaner with food. Both were aggressive food wise. The galeatus was a solid 8-9inches. The trachy trachy now is about 7inches and much more territorial. It's claimed a ceramic log along with my polys and I see the polys getting pushed out one by one on most nights. Comes out to eat with the lights on now. Not to personable. Uses its mouth as a weapon to remind my other fish of the hierarchy. Currently with some cocosoda catfish at 3inches and leaves them alone. I just make sure it's well fed.

Definitely an interesting catfish.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Here is my thread with great input from Kolt and other trachy keepers. https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/just-for-you-koltsixx.681777/page-4

In the video in second post on page 4 you can see both 4 trachies and their bolt tank mate along with others.

 

[jaws7777]

Wow, I've been busy and couldn't get on here for several days and man did this thread take off. Lol

I can't speak to all of the catfish mentioned here, but my vultures are very easy going with my fire eels. When the lights are on they stay put in their favorite corner, or perched on top of driftwood. When the lights go out, they swim constantly, a lot of times in the current along the sides of the tank. They will sometimes swim in the current during the day too, but usually retreat whenever someone walks near the tank. I do keep my lights off at all times though, unless feeding or watching them, so they never really get a chance to get used to the light. My eels swim all over them and compete with them for food and I have yet to see any aggression, even though my smallest eel is around 9". I got them from Jeff Rapps and they were about 5" and 6" when I got them. They are probably near 9" and 10" now, about 4 months later. They eat very well. I never have to worry about food being uneaten because as soon as the lights go out they eat everything. I have fed them hikari carnivore pellets (the smaller version of massivore), bloodworms, beef heart, raw shrimp, cooked shrimp, night crawlers, red wigglers, krill, and a few other things. They eat all of it. In addition, they are beautiful fish. They like to perch up in their "tripod" position and sit belly only on top of driftwood. They are definitely a great catfish to have.

I completely forgot you had some vultures. Post some pics when you get a chance.

I agree with Moe on the jur. I think I mentioned it and TBTB as well as Moe they're not very food competitive and would probably have issues competing with a Bolt, Trachy or Vulture which are all very, very food competitive. The jags are the only other ones that might give me pause but that's because they can be so reclusive that they might starve to death if they find a hide they can squeeze into and aren't kept in a large enough number.

As for the Trachy that's like my signature fish. After years of promoting them they're finally catching on a little. Viktor/TBTB, moe, kno4te and maybe you now. IME Trachys are fine in a group or singly. They're confident enough that they don't suffer by being kept singly such as becoming more reclusive. In a group they might have minor skirmishes over hides but IME it's never serious just a lot of bluster. I will warn you though they do grunt very audibly when arguing with another Trachy or even at times other fish such as during feedings. I should also mention Jags grunt as well and for the same reasons.

Trachys are light haters but will easily adapt to eating out in the open during daylight hours as well as patroling. They enjoy a tight fitting hide. It makes them feel secure while resting. If you don't provide them a hide they may become restless searching for one. They also may dislodge any aquarium heaters or filter tubes by trying to squeeze behind them so they can feel like they're hiding. If you have more then one you may even find them trying to use each other as hides. Pushing underneath one another to try and get out of sight.

During feedings they are one of the first on the scene and are very pushy. They use their armored heads as battering rams to shove other fish away from food so they can get the lion share. All of mine where fine eating at the surface and easy to handfeed. Their vision is poor so handfeeding is done by training them to come to a certain part of the surface to get fed. Once they learn they'll head there with their mouths smacking loudly as they await you to come with their food. They will tolerate being touched but IME but tend to be skittish about it.

IME they aren't aggressive except mildly with one another over hides. I imagine this might extend to other woodcats as well. I personally never witnessed it as when I had them with my Guplers, Jags and Galeatus which are all woodcats I saw no aggression or skirmishes. However if a hide is big enough to include multiple cats they're very content to share as squeezing in next to other bodies seems to make them feel even more secure in their hide.

While not aggressive they are predatory and very unpredictable in that regard IME. Mine lived fine with small fish for long periods of time. I mean like years just to suddenly turn on smaller tankmates and devour them. My male and female even double teamed a larger Albino Clown Knife to take it down. This was the only instance of them attacking a larger fish and I think it's because the knife was so thin in comparison to many other fish.

In my humble opinion they are a great under rated cat. Personable because they can be so quirky. I've had them on occasion wearing aquarium ornaments as hats since they tried to squeeze in somewhere they couldn't get all the way through or under something that got caught on top of them. If it didn't impose their movement too much they'd often swim with said ornament rather then trying to get out of it. Only removing themselves when a better, meaning a hide they actually fit in was found.

Im sold man thx foe the write up this definitly sounds like it woukd be a great addition and something that would be the perfect size to go with bolts and jags.

In all honesty the bolt is the star of the show it was one of the fish we most coveted when i got back in.

I've had trachy galeatus and was similar to current trachy trachy. As in being a vacuum cleaner with food. Both were aggressive food wise. The galeatus was a solid 8-9inches. The trachy trachy now is about 7inches and much more territorial. It's claimed a ceramic log along with my polys and I see the polys getting pushed out one by one on most nights. Comes out to eat with the lights on now. Not to personable. Uses its mouth as a weapon to remind my other fish of the hierarchy. Currently with some cocosoda catfish at 3inches and leaves them alone. I just make sure it's well fed.

Definitely an interesting catfish.

Thx man now where to find one ?
I browed the vendor forim and didnt notice any

Here is my thread with great input from Kolt and other trachy keepers. https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/just-for-you-koltsixx.681777/page-4

In the video in second post on page 4 you can see both 4 trachies and their bolt tank mate along with others.

Thx bro im really digging all the info this section.

 

[jaws7777]

Here is my thread with great input from Kolt and other trachy keepers. https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/just-for-you-koltsixx.681777/page-4

In the video in second post on page 4 you can see both 4 trachies and their bolt tank mate along with others.

Bro that bolt is stunning seriously. I cannot wait to get home and get it ordered.

Guys moe214 kno4te koltsixx thebiggerthebetter im confused. Some of you keep yohr trachy with jags but kolts trachy are like bonnie and clyde with a pretty long rap sheet. So remember the pearsei whos tied to my marital bliss... and no concern with the trachy turning on the jags?

 

[koltsixx]

Bro that bolt is stunning seriously. I cannot wait to get home and get it ordered.

Guys moe214 kno4te koltsixx thebiggerthebetter im confused. Some of you keep yohr trachy with jags but kolts trachy are like bonnie and clyde with a pretty long rap sheet. So remember the pearsei whos tied to my marital bliss... and no concern with the trachy turning on the jags?

I kept mine with Jags, Gulpers and Galeatus with no issue. As a matter of fact I think woodcats have like an agreement with one another, don't eat your brethren and I won't eat you. Like Gulpers, they seem to eat everything except each other and IME other woodcats. Even with some decent size differences the Trachys never tried to prey on any of the other woodcats I've kept them with.

As for the Pearsei, I forgot about him. IME Trachys leave big enough SA/CA cichlids alone but also IME some of those cichlids seem to home in on trying to bully Trachy's. Even going after them over other cichlids. For instance my Pikes, Lyonsi, Green Terror and Hartwegi payed them no mind. How ever my Blood Parrots and Ingots as well as a Bocourti and Synspila used to target them when ever they came out. They took it in stride but It was still irritating to watch as the cichlids bit at them and the Trachys just tried to push past them while grunting. IME if a Trachy gets aggressive it's over a hide other then that they can be turned around by an aggressive cichlid. Again not bad enough for them to not eat but it does cause me stress as I don't like conflict among my fish anymore. Which sucks because some of the best looking and most intelligent fish IMO are aggressive.

 

[jaws7777]

I kept mine with Jags, Gulpers and Galeatus with no issue. As a matter of fact I think woodcats have like an agreement with one another, don't eat your brethren and I won't eat you. Like Gulpers, they seem to eat everything except each other and IME other woodcats. Even with some decent size differences the Trachys never tried to prey on any of the other woodcats I've kept them with.

As for the Pearsei, I forgot about him. IME Trachys leave big enough SA/CA cichlids alone but also IME some of those cichlids seem to home in on trying to bully Trachy's. Even going after them over other cichlids. For instance my Pikes, Lyonsi, Green Terror and Hartwegi payed them no mind. How ever my Blood Parrots and Ingots as well as a Bocourti and Synspila used to target them when ever they came out. They took it in stride but It was still irritating to watch as the cichlids bit at them and the Trachys just tried to push past them while grunting. IME if a Trachy gets aggressive it's over a hide other then that they can be turned around by an aggressive cichlid. Again not bad enough for them to not eat but it does cause me stress as I don't like conflict among my fish anymore. Which sucks because some of the best looking and most intelligent fish IMO are aggressive.

I completely agree about the conflict ive grown to have 0 tolerance for it. Thats partly why im asking soo many questions. The kids (mostly my son) put me through hell when i have to rehome someone. Infact the pearsei and ornate bichir have been thorns in my side for just about 3 yrs but he loves them so i work around it. Polys are easy 1 in 20 may be territorial which is different than just being outright aggressive adding more polys usually helps with those.

The best fish get names and talked about, hand fed and all sorts of crap. Now my daughters gettin older and more involved so it will only be hard hahahaha.

My wife hand feeds the pearsei she insists hes kissing her mean while hes really just pissed that shes close to his tank. Lol