New 180 Gallon Tank filtration questions

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brendon7358

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Hello,

I am purchasing a 180 gallon tank and have a few questions, mainly filtration questions.

The tank dimensions are 48" long 36" high and 24" wide, I prefer longer tanks but this is what I found. It comes with a stand and a light but no bulbs. They will drive 1 hr to drop it off and it will cost $500 is this a good deal? Are these tank dimensions good? I prefer longer tanks but I'm not really sure what fish prefer. I found this 150 gallon at petsmart for $800 and I'm not sure if I should just get that instead. I would really prefer a long tank but can't find any for my price range (no more than $800).

Filtration:
After some research I came to 2 conclusions:
A. The Fluval Fx5 is the best filter for this size
B. It's best to have 2 filters in case one goes out
With that in mind, the Fluval Fx5 is no longer available. I couldn't find it on their website or amazon. The Fluval Fx6 is an option but it's very expensive and capable of up to 400 gallons. Not really something I need. I was thinking a filter for around 200-250 gallons. So should I get the Fx6 or 2 other filters instead? If 2 filters what kind? I currently have a 20 gallon tank housing the fish for the 180 gallon tank (to get the cycling process started) and I have a Rena Filistar XP1 on that, which I love. But its the first canister filter I have owned so I don't really have anything to compare it to. So I was thinking an XP4 but I would rather 2 smaller filters in case one goes out. Optimally each filter capable of around 100 gallons or more. I would like to spend the least possible of course but I want a good filter not a cheap one, so I am willing to spend upwards of $300 for quality filtration. I do like to keep live plants in my tank but not nearly enough to subsidize filtration.

Heating:
What do you use for heating? What wattage and how many of them? Where the tank will be there is an ambient temperature of around 75-77 degrees rarely colder than 75. I also have an issue where the coldest my tap gets is around 80-82 degrees which is annoying because I can't really match the temperature I currently keep my tank at (77).

Fish:
The fish I currently have that I will transport to the 180 gallon are: (none of them are more than 3")
3 Bala Sharks
1 Pictus Catfish
1 Bristlenose Pleco
1 Red Tailed Shark
I want to get,
Eartheater Cichlid (aka pearl cichlid)
Brown Hoplo Catfish
More Pictus Catfish?
Maybe 2 more Bala sharks for a proper school but that would be a lot of bioload
Clown Loaches (2-5?) Again don't want a huge amount of bioload from one type of fish
Knifefish of some kind?
Would this be reasonable?

Decor:
I like a natural look, I will be using sand (normal white sand color). Driftwood, maybe some rocks. And I currently have some Anubias plants and what I believe to be a Java Moss, but I'm not sure (picture below).

The tank will be on carpet, this won't be a problem right?

If you have any suggestions feel free to let me know, thanks for the help!

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I think $500 is a bit pricey for this tank and stand plus the canopy looks homemade and a bit ratty.

The 30" high tank with 48" long dimensions looks awkward to me and either the tank glass is dirty or the glass is a bit etched, kinda hard to see in the pics.

If you aren't in a hurry, I'd wait around for a better deal on a used tank setup.
 
I think $500 is a bit pricey for this tank and stand plus the canopy looks homemade and a bit ratty.

The 30" high tank with 48" long dimensions looks awkward to me and either the tank glass is dirty or the glass is a bit etched, kinda hard to see in the pics.

If you aren't in a hurry, I'd wait around for a better deal on a used tank setup.

I got him down to $450 because it is only 150 gallons. He is willing to deliver it too. Which is a great help since I don't have a truck. I am hoping it is just dirty. The only other things I have seen on Craigslist are 125 gallon or 200 gallon for 1500+.
 
For filtration I'm thinking:
1x Eheim Classic 600 (2217)
1x Fluval 406

Would that be fine? I wanted to get one of each so I could see which I preferred. In retrospect however the Eheim is slightly cheaper and has more filtration capacity so would 2 of those be a better idea? Also if the ambient room temperature is never below 75 degress, do I need a heater? Thanks!
 
There is always a danger when buying a used tank because you won't know if it will leak. If you are really set on this tank, ask the owner if he will fill it with water while you are there so you can see if it holds water and how the glass looks. It is always possible the tank might still develop a leak, depending on the care taken when it's transported and when you set it up.

I've bought used tanks and sometimes you can't tell when they are empty how bad the glass really is. I've also bought some that leaked or needed resealed and have had good luck with fixing them.

I have the Eheim 2217 and use it on tanks 55G and smaller and I have only used the Fluval FX5 filter and that was with an Eheim 2260 on a 72" 125G tank.

I don't keep any of the fish you are considering so can't advise whether the filters you are considering are enough. Hopefully someone else will chime in on the filter options.
 
He filled the tank and it leaked so he is going to re seal it. I would like to get a different tank but can't find anything for a reasonable price. Any good websites? I have searched craigslist already. How hard/expensive is it to build your own tank? I am looking for something max 72" x 36" and height doesn't matter too much. I am not sure how much weight the floor can hold, it will be against a wall and there is no basement so I imagine a significant amount. I don't want to spend more than $1000 on the tank and stand (incl anything required to build the tank and stand) and I want at least 125 gallons but preferably close to or above 200 gallons. Thanks!
 
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He filled the tank and it leaked so he is going to re seal it. I would like to get a different tank but can't find anything for a reasonable price. Any good websites? I have searched craigslist already. How hard/expensive is it to build your own tank? I am looking for something max 72" x 36" and height doesn't matter too much. I am not sure how much weight the floor can hold, it will be against a wall and there is no basement so I imagine a significant amount. I don't want to spend more than $1000 on the tank and stand (incl anything required to build the tank and stand) and I want at least 125 gallons but preferably close to or above 200 gallons. Thanks!
First make sure your floor can handle the weight
 
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