For me dimension and gallons go hand in hand with choosing stock/filtration. I could have a 360 gallon that is 6x2x3 lxwxh or 6x3x2 lxwxh which effects how I would stock and filter the tank.
Gallons vs Size
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I think this is a great example of the problem. I would not consider 7x2x2 a standard 210. If you told me you had a "standard" 210, I would assume it was 72x24x29 which are the common dimensions I see for a 210.
I think the point the OP was trying to make is that if provide all 3 dimensions you can calculate the volume. But you can't do the reverse.
Personally, I usually would say something like I have a 7x2 210. By providing the base and the volume it is easy enough to know/find the height.
For me dimension and gallons go hand in hand with choosing stock/filtration. I could have a 360 gallon that is 6x2x3 lxwxh or 6x3x2 lxwxh which effects how I would stock and filter the tank.
Most 210's I've seen have been 7x2x2. I've only ever seen one 72x24x29 210, but I usually only see 210s in stocking threads on this forum, and most recently when I started looking for another tank. I've also only been in the hobby for about 3 years, so I likely haven't seen as many 210s as you have.
It's not meant to be argumentative, but again, the assumption in the OP is that people have ended up not making good decisions because no one knew the exact tank dimensions.
That's an assumption.
Maybe what should happen is that someone should post examples of threads like that.
Because.... if there are no examples of that, what is the point?
As RD pointed out, people often don't take the advice. As Angelphish pointed out, standard dimensions are extremely common. As I pointed out, in many discussions, the tank dimensions simply do not matter: a 75 gallon is not the correct size for an adult Silver Aro, CK, Pacu or RTC regardless of it's dimensions.
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If we are discussing BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS (as described in MFK s welcome page, then "standard" tanks are not even part of the discussion. Dimensions matter when ordering a custom tank for your monster fish. A 60' x2' x2' tank would never work for my fish, but a tank holding the same gallons but with different dimensions works.
I believe i used the word more accurate which is a fact not an assumption
For RD comment, are you saying because people don't bother to listen so it does not matter if advise is inaccurate?
And for angelphish comment, I believe others had replied
Not sure why you see the need to justify accuracy though
Your OP says appropriate not accurate. Here's your OP.
Ironic.
Appropriate is an opinion, not a fact. You said as much when you said "Personally...." It's your opinion we all would be better off if we talked the way you are used to talking.
Swell.
I asked for evidence to support this. Your response is to accuse me of supporting inaccuracy.
Swell.
If you have no evidence for your opinion, gosh, I'm okay with that. Everyone can have an opinion. My opinion is different. I don't think we need to ask everything or know everything before giving a valid reply in many circumstances.
Ironic.
Appropriate is an opinion, not a fact. You said as much when you said "Personally...." It's your opinion we all would be better off if we talked the way you are used to talking.
Swell.
I asked for evidence to support this. Your response is to accuse me of supporting inaccuracy.
Swell.
If you have no evidence for your opinion, gosh, I'm okay with that. Everyone can have an opinion. My opinion is different. I don't think we need to ask everything or know everything before giving a valid reply in many circumstances.
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That is an opinion that I do not agree with. A 33L has the same 48x12 base dimensions of a 55, but 13inches of height against the 21 of a 55. I hear over and over again "48 inch tank" (which could even be a standard 150 [48x24x30]), and then hear "48x12", as if this somehow describes the tank - if you want to know how many kribs or thorichthys or shellies you can put in, but not how many others - any of those three would accept dithers in a 55 or a 150, but to throw a few mollies into a 33L multifasciatus colony is a death sentence. I see on youtube many tanks with fish that don't have the option of swimming up or down.
Fish need the depth.
Furthermore, if you consider the extra gallonage as somewhere to dilute nitrate and other evils, you must consider the filtration makes a big difference here. Even without plants, refugiums or denitrators, sumps make a big difference. A 48 gallon tank with a sump made of a 55g bucket can handle probably twice as many endlers as a 55 on a canister.
There are turnover, biomedia, decor, denitration, circulation, and many other factors that go into a tank as well. You cannot consider dimensions alone.
Expecting people to give you all the info is too much. Just because it makes sense doesn't mean people will do it. The SUV is testimony to that. Many people don't know the dimensions of their tanks, and if they do, don't think it is important enough to tell people. I am guilty of this, as well.
