Opinions on this bichir

[jaws7777]

alright, sounds like a little tank swapping to find out who will cohab with my sa lung, but overall peaceful to most other fish that wont fit in their mouths

I dont think there is a concrete answer when it comes to aggression. Over all the species is peaceful. Doubly peaceful towards non poly tankmates. Its a numbers game. Always gonna be a few rotten apples.

I bet if there was a survey done between all the members it would probably be close to 50/50 split in terms of whose more aggressive lj or uj.

For me i've had slightly more aggression from upper jaws (that i can remember). Gold dust, ornate were problems. I had a sen that went through a nippy stage.

A wc endlicheri that was absolute hell on wheels to other polys but never bothered a non poly. Yet 5 other endli that were easy peezy. A pbb that was aggressive towards polys and bite the pearsei. After a smack down it had no issues with the big green guy. Another pbb thats a complete pushover.

The ornate never bothered a non poly until it started picking on a juruense oddly left the vulture alone.

I wouldnt use aggression as a sole means to decide which you like. Also should consoder how important activity level is. Or its patterns.

any "froggy issue" with tws tank raised bichirs? or is koliba the best bet

It depends good genetics or bad. Either way it would be a gamble. Most defects dont really manifest until they put on some size. You'd probably be safe with cb dels. Other than getting the beer belly they look great. On the other hand i love cb endlis so its a preference thing. Rapps has them for dirt cheap right now i would definitely give one or two a try.

Cb koliba are no where near as nice as wc. Endli on the other hand isnt a total drop off but can end up with froggy eyes.

Check out zilchs thread he kept a lung
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/zilchs-fish-kids.686318/

 

[clm08k]

WC Koliba for comparison - yeah Rocksor I wouldn’t get that CB Koliba cuz its proportions are out of place

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Wow! That is one beautiful Koliba.

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If you are doing lower jaw, I think CB endlis are beautiful. I prefer the look of WC for laps and PBB that are dark brown as opposed to green. Everybody has their preferences though.

As far as the aggression, it’s a toss up. I really like the 5 poly rule that many members follow. My moke used to be aggressive, but she was the biggest poly in the tank and all the others were very passive and 6 inches smaller lol. I put in dividers, her in solitary confinement in a different tank too many time so to count, and tried to add her on 12 different occasions. Then finally I adopted two new bigger polys. After allowing them a month to “claim” the tank without her in it, I added her back in and it was all good. I’m tenacious though and realize this might not have worked out. most mokes aren’t like this though and are typically shy. Either way the bigger moke keeps her in line. Agree about the bad apples and some of them just want to be predators haha. ANd eat 6 green tiger barbs, some danios, and one of your delhezis....

Does this look like a face that would do any harm?

 

[clm08k]

WC Koliba for comparison - yeah Rocksor I wouldn’t get that CB Koliba cuz its proportions are out of place

View attachment 1302463 View attachment 1302464

Wow! That is one beautiful Koliba.

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If you are doing lower jaw, I think CB endlis are beautiful. I prefer the look of WC for laps and PBB that are dark brown as opposed to green. Everybody has their preferences though.

As far as the aggression, it’s a toss up. I really like the 5 poly rule that many members follow. My moke used to be aggressive, but she was the biggest poly in the tank and all the others were very passive and 6 inches smaller lol. I put in dividers, her in solitary confinement in a different tank too many time so to count, and tried to add her on 12 different occasions. Then finally I adopted two new bigger polys. After allowing them a month to “claim” the tank without her in it, I added her back in and it was all good. I’m tenacious though and realize this might not have worked out. most mokes aren’t like this though and are typically shy. Either way the bigger moke keeps her in line. Agree about the bad apples and some of them just want to be predators haha. ANd eat 6 green tiger barbs, some danios, and one of your delhezis....

Does this look like a face that would do any harm?
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[jaws7777]

Wow! That is one beautiful Koliba.

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If you are doing lower jaw, I think CB endlis are beautiful. I prefer the look of WC for laps and PBB that are dark brown as opposed to green. Everybody has their preferences though.

As far as the aggression, it’s a toss up. I really like the 5 poly rule that many members follow. My moke used to be aggressive, but she was the biggest poly in the tank and all the others were very passive and 6 inches smaller lol. I put in dividers, her in solitary confinement in a different tank too many time so to count, and tried to add her on 12 different occasions. Then finally I adopted two new bigger polys. After allowing them a month to “claim” the tank without her in it, I added her back in and it was all good. I’m tenacious though and realize this might not have worked out. most mokes aren’t like this though and are typically shy. Either way the bigger moke keeps her in line. Agree about the bad apples and some of them just want to be predators haha. ANd eat 6 green tiger barbs, some danios, and one of your delhezis....

Does this look like a face that would do any harm?
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So true.

Not to derail but its great that you were able to over come ALL of the crap that you went through i feel like your threads and your wacky issues was a great contribution to our section. The moke issue proves that allot of what we think we know cam be tossed out the window at any given moment.

Rocksor did you get one yet ?

 

[Rocksor]

So true.

Not to derail but its great that you were able to over come ALL of the crap that you went through i feel like your threads and your wacky issues was a great contribution to our section. The moke issue proves that allot of what we think we know cam be tossed out the window at any given moment.

Rocksor did you get one yet ?

Not yet. I do want to get the garnet sand, what's the brand name of it and size should I get?

 

[kno4te]

Most of the guys use 40grit or higher and red garnet. Barton is one company but any sandblasting company will have it.

 

[jaws7777]

LCruz@barton.com can find a distributor