Do i need to do water changes if i have good filter

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I hand an antique under gravel filter with 3" of crushed pumice. Then put in a green, tree branch for decor.

Then figured my weekly 50% WC, would suffice. Until I could buy a test kit.
 
Ouch!

I'm getting a barrel soon. Can fill it with buckets then just pump the tanks full :)
 
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LOL I still use undergravel filters
Hello; So do I. In fact after joining this forum some years ago and reading many negative posts about the UGF I decided to set up two tanks with them.
I wanted to see if the sort of negative outcomes could be duplicated. While it has only been three and four years since running them, so far no bad outcomes.
Of course I ran them for a few decades back in the day so I am not surprised.
 
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I have 2 tanks running them with reverse flow power heads. both heavily planted. I found I can balance a tank quicker using undergravel. not sure why just seems to work that way. had a problem with one once back in the early 90's. had to dismantle it and do over. that was pulling water up through it the old fashioned way. plants luv the reverse flow. the mulm is pused up to them rather then pulled away and tucked under the plate I think
 
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The lost art of reverse flow under gravel filter plates.

I would still use them, but my cichlids kept digging them up, every time they spawned.

Eventually the super fine sand jammed up most of the slots.

I use sand tiles with a sump, so no more gravel vacuuming, no buckets, pythons, hoses dragged through the house. Now I do water changes in the spare moments between cooking or mowing the lawn.

110 gallons of barrel storage in my basement sump room. That gets cycled though the tanks. Between irrigating and refilling.
 
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I am newer at Oscar keeping. Your explanation was super helpful to me. I have been trying to decide on a canister filter or hang on the back. Do you prefer a hang on the back?

Thanks
Stew


Here’s a better understanding on WHY we do water changes:
Your filter picks up waste. (Uneaten food, poop, etc)
The live bacteria break down the waste and it becomes ammonia as it decays.
This broken down waste becomes nitrite.
This nitrite gets absorbed by a different kind of bacteria, then output as nitrate.
Ammonia, being the most toxic, nitrite still toxic, and nitrate is much more tolerable in small concentrations.
In a tank with a filter alone, the nitrate ends up adding up and eventually becoming toxic to your fish.
The water change dilutes the amount of nitrates with fresh water. Thus, making the nitrates less toxic since it’s now a lower concentration.
IF you wanted to do LESS water changes, you could add live plants to complete the nitrogen cycle and absorb all the nitrates.

Now on the topic of filtration:
Over filtration is better. Yes.
Oscars, very messy fish. They will REQUIRE over filtration. So your “over filtration” becomes standard filtration for your stock.
Your filter (canister) is only so efficient. That being said, even with the canister on a small tank, some waste stays inside the tank. (Stuck in the gravel, sand, decorations etc.) your water changes will help remove this waste that is decaying inside the tank, never having made it to the filter.
And canister filters are known as “nitrate factories” because while they hold tons of media, the increased bacteria can handle much more “cleaning”, and all this broken down organic material remains inside the barrel of the filter. Until it is removed from the tank AND filter, your tank still won’t be “clean”.

So bottom line here is this:
Your canister is decent for your tank and stock. It will need to be cleaned frequently.
You will also need to perform routine water changes.
It’s a necessary evil in the hobby.

For a “low maintenance system”, do some research on the “Walstad Method”.
 
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I am newer at Oscar keeping. Your explanation was super helpful to me. I have been trying to decide on a canister filter or hang on the back. Do you prefer a hang on the back?

Thanks
Stew
Between the two, I prefer hang on back(HOB) for ease of maintenance. But I prefer canister for the amount of media you can cram into it. If you’re diligent at filter maintenance, a canister would be a good option. If not, you’d need as many HOBs as you could fit on your aquarium and I’d fill them up with biological media and a good pre filter like PinkyFilters. White side fist, then pink, then bio.
But, if you’re willing to do some research and plumb a good system, my ultimate preference is a sump. Much easier to maintain than the canister, and you can fit way more media than the canister and HOB combined depending on the size sump you pick.
 
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