Hydrocynus ID please

monsterkeeper87

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I’m thinking of keeping him now and seeing how it goes, if it seems like he’s at risk or he’s a risk to everything else I’ll try to find him a good home as a “show piece” fish, I just hope he doesn’t fight or kill the other tiger fish I’m going to get... I’ll keep you all posted :)
 

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I’m thinking of keeping him now and seeing how it goes, if it seems like he’s at risk or he’s a risk to everything else I’ll try to find him a good home as a “show piece” fish, I just hope he doesn’t fight or kill the other tiger fish I’m going to get... I’ll keep you all posted :)
Another ATF? From my experience he most likely will.
 

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Oh, really? I’ve seen loads of videos on YouTube etc where people have small schools of them. Is it just a disaster waiting to happen?

I’ll have to have a think about what to do with him then :( the problem I’ve got is I like a lot of the larger catfish and we all know what they’re like if they can fit it in their mouth!
 

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For the most part if not always, ATF will fight amongst each other to vye for dominance. I still remember when my smaller VATF would boss around a bigger GATF but was at the very bottom of the totem pole with other tank mates. I find doradoes to be the best schooling monster characin. They take each other’s occasional hits better. ATF end up lacerating each other in long streaks and go for blinding another’s eyes. That being said, I’ve never kept a fatf before but from observation I don’t think it do any less aggression.
 
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monsterkeeper87

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Thanks everyone, that’s saved me a lot of stress and money! It’s so annoying that it’s the only 1 that stays small! If I was looking for a forskhalli I would never find 1 haha :confused:
 

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When you're looking at videos of ATF on youtube or whatver, notice that there are only two kinds of video: vids with a whole bunch of young ATF that are in a brand new setup, and vids with one monster ATF by itself or with a handful of other fish that the ATF would not confuse for another ATF. There's a reason for this. They are not a schooling genus as adults. They school as juveniles, but quickly become territorial and intolerant of competition as they approach sexual maturity, which happens at around 12" or so, depending on species. When these changes start to take over, the cohabbed tanks always fail, and you'll only have one beat up example left. If you only start with one, you'll have one flawless example.

As for fatf, they're gnarly compared to the other species. The only ATF I've worked with that outstrips them in aggression is the brevis, which basically never finds its way into the hobby. Idk why no one wants FATF, they're easily the most rewarding pet to keep in the genus of the ones you're likely to actually find.
 

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I agrer with all the above. Stick with 1 atf. I've tried several timez just to all have it go **** on me! Presently i have one big ass gatf and that is the only one i will keep. Adding more will eventually end in a hot mess!
 

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