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I've already gone over my whole mixed bag of different colored convicts that came from one spawn, and how I'm gonna grow out the platinums and 'oranges' from that. I ended up finding one last platinum, so that evens it out to 14. Best case scenario it's 50/50 m:f. Worst case scenario they're all males and they eat eachother. In which case they'll end up just like their father.
Speaking of things growing out to determine sex, my trimac is a female. She has a dorsal spot now, at 3 inches long. "rex" is now... rexy? even if the female version of rex is Regina or something I think rexy is a better name for a fish.
In spite of me clearing half my tanks in preparation for college, those empty tanks have become growouts for fry obviously, and winter tanks for summer tub fish. Though I do think I'll leave my mosquitofish outside.
That leads to the next thing. I had a very fun day of collecting mosquitofish for a few hours, I think I grabbed about a hundred, give or take 20 because mosquitofish don't take too well to being out of water for more than a few seconds. Either way I'm dumping them in one of my tubs for mosquito reasons. And my uncle's setting up a pond for the same reason so having the hundred ready along with whatever they spew out in the next 8 months will be good for that. The 3 big females in here are almost 2 and a half to three inches long. Biggest mosquitofish I've ever seen
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In other pond news, I am overrun with swordtails. I bought 4 females and 2 males, I now have anywhere from 50-200 fry swimming around in the tub. It is impossible for me to do a net sweep of the tub (in search of the parents to see if they haven't boiled in the recent heat wave, greenwater doesn't even spare visibility of the brightest fish) without accidentally netting at least a dozen fry. I'll leave them out for another month or two, once day temps dip below 80 when it isn't raining I'll pull them. Hopefully they look like swordtails by then because my LFS owner is waiting for me to sell him fish that are of visible size.
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Same goes for my guppies in the tub I have at my Grandpa's, except there's only a pair or trio at most in there (I only started with 1 male and 3 females, so not too much loss) but the water still looks like it's boiling from all the fry pecking at the surface. Reminds me of a downsized version of segrest farms' opaline gourami pond, if anyone saw that video.
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I have lost faith in waterbottle bbs hatcheries and am buying an actual pre made one as a last ditch attempt to powerfeed whatever fry I have left to a sellable size by Christmas.
My bettas have fry too. I am attempting to leave the fry with their father because he hasn't made an attempt to eat them afaik. It has been a week and they are being fed infusoria.
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As for my reasoning as to breeding line bred fish? I think I touched on it in another thread. There is no market around here for A.nanolutea, HRPs, C.demasoni, N.cygnus A.multispinosa, L.tridens, H.pyrrhonotus, or A.toweri. I don't trust myself with shipping either, I had a bad accident last time I tried and let's just say I had to refund $50 worth of fish. So the solution I found was just breeding things that were cheap, easy, wanted and accessible in my area. Next best thing. Hopefully it pays off, because I didn't really spend anything significant on it. I didn't have much money to invest in the first place.
Oh oh and the highlight of my day today? This 1 inch green sunfish that I caught by scaring it into a net from its hiding place, under a metal beam.
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It moves too much and is currently hiding, but if I were able to get a good picture you'd see how unbelievably colorful the tiny thing is.
 
How big are the tubs? I've just put a trio of swordtails and 1 male and 3 female guppies into a 40G so wanted some breeding action but i think most of the fry will get munched in a small tank.
Looks like your plan has been very successful!
 
How big are the tubs?
I would like to know this as well, I also would like to know what are the normal temperature swings for you? I’ve been attempting to breed platties in my tank for a while but I’ve only managed to get 3 fry so far and wish to get far more for a steady supply of live food for a future project.
 
The tubs are only about 2.5 feet wide and circular, they hold about 30 gallons each. As for temp swings, the water near the surface is in the 80s, and the water near the bottom is around 75 because I have alot of plant cover. The fry hang near the surface in the mops of hornwort and under the lilies, and the adults hug the bottom. I made sure to seed the ponds with cyano at the beginning of the season for greenwater, I feel like that has an effect on the survivability of fry since like I said before there's only about an inch of visibility in there. I do not feed the ponds and have only had to top them off twice. There is no filtration other than the plants. I put them out in May (a little late) but so far things have been going good.
Oh and as for predator control? 1/2 inch chicken wire. Keeps the dragonflies out (which there are alot of around here, I have to kick them away when I check on the ponds because they swarm to the newly opened pools of water) and definitely keeps the crows out better than window mesh.
 
How big are the tubs? I've just put a trio of swordtails and 1 male and 3 female guppies into a 40G so wanted some breeding action but i think most of the fry will get munched in a small tank.
Looks like your plan has been very successful!
Oh and as for breeding success as far as getting them to drop fry I think it's more the result of the surpluss of food (algae, insect larvae, etc) as well as natural sunlight (and probably the increase in space) that prompted the fish to drop fry more. The guppies used to have their own 20 long and rarely dropped fry, I only have 2 fry from tank drops. I feel like a 40 with heavy feeding and planting would be perfect for your project.
 
I thought the tubs would have been bigger for some reason.
Maybe I should give this a try here during summer and see how it goes.
 
You definitely should, the setting up the tubs part only cost me $25 each, because I bought the tubs for $20 and lilies for $5. And the fish I either already had or bought for $5 ea. Hornwort I found in a lake washed up on shore, and I hucked it in a 5 gallon and left the light on for a year. Then half the 5 gallon was hornwort, and from that original clump I occasionally break off chunks to plant other tanks with. It takes off especially fast in sunlight, I only throw in a hand sized clump when setting up the tubs and it covers the entire top of the tub in a week or two.
Imo people should do this for goldfish as opposed to spending $30 on a tank kit that would probably still be too small. Water volume wise this would be perfect for 1 or two for awhile. Doesn't take up too much space outside either.
 
I wish I'd known about those sooner, but in the meantime I actually use the ones from Lowe's. They say its 20 gallons but holds more like 35 iirc. Home Depot also has 40 gallon circular ponds that are like 3 feet wide with planting ledges for $30, of you're more interested in aesthetics.
 
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