Hello; Back in the Viet Nam era I guess. I did not see them often myself, only two or three times. My guess was they used the low mountains around SE Kentucky for practice. Maybe the terrain was similar to someplace else in the world where they did it for real? Maybe because there was little air traffic in the area? I do not actually know why.
Global doom and gloom.
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My province has had the wettest winter in years and the dams are full. No more drought!
Hello; I guess some folks are kind of late coming to understand the enormous holes we have dug for ourselves in terms of things discussed here. I can say from experience eventually a sort of acceptance or resignation happens. Does not make a person happy to accept these things as done deeds, but the acute levels of depression eventually can fade some. I came to have an idea about things going bad somewhere in the mid 1970's.
Took some actions with mixed results. The Paul Revere, spread the warning sort of things were the least effective overall. Folks had then and still have very good denial mechanisms. Saw this clearly with a young relative. She had overheard me talking about this stuff as she grew up so at the very least the noises passed into her ears. Made no difference to have heard the warnings however. Again I think of how the Peanuts -Charlie Brown films treat adult voices as just noise. Any way she now has four young children brought into the mess.
Don't get this wrong. It is not that I think no one should have any children. I do for sure think we would be much better off today had there been far fewer children born since say 1975. The various population pressures active now could have been greatly reduced. Such is not the nature of population dynamics however and I have had to accept the facts as they are.
The more satisfying actions I took revolve around personal lifestyle choices. I did take an extreme course in deciding to not have children of my own and taking steps to make sure there were no accidents. Been back and forth with my thinking on that decision over the decades but now in the fullness of time am satisfied that was the better of my personal actions. May well be that I missed a special emotion folks with children have told me about. I do not know how to miss something I never had.
I do know from time to time people with children I am close to have allowed me to know of the worry they now experience for their children and/or grandchildren. Reminds me of the commercial out currently with two friends having breakfast and one not eating. He tells his friend about his daughter using heroin. The other fellow does not know what to say. I also do not know how to make people feel better.
There is an old saying something like this. You are not really paranoid if someone is actually out to get you. I guess the same sort of application can be made about depression. It is not a wrong emotion to be depressed when there are depressing things going on. Let me try a true story as told to me by my father late in his life.
My father joined the Marines at 17 during WWII. He saw combat with the Fourth Marine Division. If I recall correctly it was during his first experience under live fire. He told me about how for a time he was terrified to a point of trying to burrow into the dirt. I will not pretend to understand what that feels like. I have tried to imagine but know I never will. He overcame somehow by in his words, accepting his fate. Something like he figured to die and was still afraid but was going to do his job. He was a good Marine and was proud to stand with the other Marines. "I could walk among um (them)" is what he told me.
Not sure I fixed my personal depression as much as learned to live with it. I may be too ready to spout off about what I know to be true, but decided long ago to not hide from these issues. Most days these things are in the background and I can have fun. Not sure if any of this helps. The cat pictures are not much help for me. Hope it helps others.
This makes me sad. I wish you could find a little smile in cat pictures.
Hello; Two things I guess. One is I am not a cat person for what ever reason. Not sure why but never had an interest in them.
The other is within in the context of this thread I gather the pictures are intended to be a distraction. I get it. There have been various attempts at distraction over the decades. For the early decades most people just did not wish to think about the issues we have discussed. Back then these things were a someday in the future sort of possibility that could be ignored or otherwise dismissed. Some of them are not an "in the future" event any longer so if looking at cats helps, OK. I admit using pictures of cats is a new tactic, just does not work for me.
In my opening post in this thread I rhymed off a list of doom and gloom, and what made it even more gloomier was that I couldn't for the life in me think of something that significantly swayed me into believing that I was being a little harsh, and that in reality we truly live in a wonderful world instead, with a bright rosy future.
So I offered people to come up with ways of cheering me up, maybe come up with something inspiring that i'd missed. I'm still waiting.
The thread then started swerving around a bit, we had a bit of a laugh, I cheered up, which is what I originally requested.
And there is the saddest thing of all. We think about the world that we live in now, we think about the future.....and there's no laughs or cheeriness in sight regarding that subject. It is, as the title of the thread alludes to, all doom and gloom.
It’s not so much a a distraction...but to maybe focus on something other than doom and gloom.
Personally I do what I can to help the environment and strive daily to make changes that are good for humanity (within reason).
I buy laundry strips to reduce plastic containers from going into landfills, I buy cleaning products that are highly concentrated and dilute them at home in re-usable containers, recycle as much as I can, I also don’t have children and don’t see myself having children.
Some of my goals are learning to hunt to reduce the stress on the industries growing meat, buy Property so I can grow fruits and veggies.
I also feel like when we know better we do better. So continue to educate the younger generations but also enjoy the smaller things in life...like cats and dogs
if you allow something to take over your mind it will.
I sincerely hope you have something more than doom and gloom to think about and something that also makes you smile. Maybe not cats but fish maybe
(And I don’t mean for this to come access as rude)Hello; To me such is what having a distraction means. If someone is upset over say a divorce, take them fishing. Fly fishing has been a way to get away from things, not just environmental stuff.
Hello; You are not rude. Not even unkind. Others have said cruel things to me but your comments are not in the same league. Perhaps we can have a side discussion about the benefits of being childless. I will start with one. I think of a child as being expensive like buying a Ferrari. In the sense of how much it can cost to raise a child. I never made much money as a public school teacher so after my two expensive wives were gone I could save some money for my old age.I sincerely hope you have something more than doom and gloom to think about and something that also makes you smile. Maybe not cats but fish maybe
Good good I didn’t want to sound rude!
agreed. Children = Ferrari lol
Though I do think children are more important than Cars
