The most restrictive pet-ownership legislation on Earth

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The title above describes how some members of the ruling elite in Winnipeg, Manitoba (Canada) are referring to a new Responsible Pet Ownership law that is being considered for implementation in the city. They seem to think that being the "most" anything is somehow a wonderful thing.

If the legislation passes as it now stands, it would among other things completely ban the possession of probably 90% of the aquarium species now in the hobby...as well as reptiles, birds, invertebrates...everything. Anything wild-collected would be out the window. Anything that poses any sort of risk to humans...and this is so broadly defined that it would include such technically-venomous species as Corydoras catfish...would be banned. Anything requiring large tanks...banned.

The discussion period for this ridiculous piece of Draconian BS has been extended to sometime in April. Here is a link:


to a survey posted by the city to gauge if Manitobans and other Canadian are ready for the government to apply a little more pressure to the boot that they already have firmly planted on our necks. I hope that any other Canadian members who see this will respond to this survey; yes, this particular piece of legislative crap will directly and immediately affect only residents of the city of Winnipeg...but if it passes, it will be the model that other cities and regions will gleefully point to as they craft their own versions of it.

Please...if you are reading this and are a Canadian, you should be filling in this survey. Read the question carefully before choosing your answers, as some of them are a bit leading and intend to steer you in a particular direction, likely not the one in which you intend to go. It only takes maybe ten minutes. Do it!
 
Done. This is a disgusting abuse of power. I am a massive animal lover of every kind and I wholeheartedly want the best for animals being cared for by humans. But who the f&#$ are these idiots to decide what's allowed and what's not? Within reason, sure. Can I own a tiger? Hard no, I back that 100%. Government deciding how many dogs or cats I can have at one time? Get bent.
 
The title above describes how some members of the ruling elite in Winnipeg, Manitoba (Canada) are referring to a new Responsible Pet Ownership law that is being considered for implementation in the city. They seem to think that being the "most" anything is somehow a wonderful thing.

If the legislation passes as it now stands, it would among other things completely ban the possession of probably 90% of the aquarium species now in the hobby...as well as reptiles, birds, invertebrates...everything. Anything wild-collected would be out the window. Anything that poses any sort of risk to humans...and this is so broadly defined that it would include such technically-venomous species as Corydoras catfish...would be banned. Anything requiring large tanks...banned.

The discussion period for this ridiculous piece of Draconian BS has been extended to sometime in April. Here is a link:


to a survey posted by the city to gauge if Manitobans and other Canadian are ready for the government to apply a little more pressure to the boot that they already have firmly planted on our necks. I hope that any other Canadian members who see this will respond to this survey; yes, this particular piece of legislative crap will directly and immediately affect only residents of the city of Winnipeg...but if it passes, it will be the model that other cities and regions will gleefully point to as they craft their own versions of it.

Please...if you are reading this and are a Canadian, you should be filling in this survey. Read the question carefully before choosing your answers, as some of them are a bit leading and intend to steer you in a particular direction, likely not the one in which you intend to go. It only takes maybe ten minutes. Do it!
This has been in the works for some time now. I filled out the survey quite some time ago. And I’m in the same boat of thinking if it passes other provinces will follow suit.
 
I'm curious jjohnwm jjohnwm . In that link at the end is a step by step guide of where they are up to. It started with the "by-law review begins" in May of last year, and the latest part is their "public engagement" which takes part Jan-Feb this year, which I suppose is to gauge public opinion on this new bullsh.....err, legislation.

However, they also had a "public engagement" in August last year, and they have a big tick at the side of it, I presume meaning all went well. Surely there must have been public outcry back in August of last year when these new rules were publicised? Enough outcry to make them realise that they were on a hiding to nothing with this, and maybe ditch the whole nonsense.
 
Doesn’t king of diy live in Canada? Why does he get to keep stingrays, Asian arowana etc
 
Doesn’t king of diy live in Canada? Why does he get to keep stingrays, Asian arowana etc
He lives on the East Coast. Manitoba is right smack in the middle of the country (The Prairies). Every City or Province has different rules. That being said Arrows and Sting Rays are allowed here, for now.

This stupid by-law would make my Fahaka illegal. WHY!? Fahaka's can't live in our climate and are definitely not a threat to humans (unless you get your finger nipped while feeding :ROFL:). I'm ok with certain invasive species not being allowed (snakeheads) but the rest should be fine. Maybe instead of this type of nonsense, they should look at things like proper care. If you want to keep an Arrow for example or maybe an MBU, you should have to meet certain tank size requirements, proper feeding etc. Although I think most responsible owners already do that.

I've already filled out the survey and as mentioned above, be sure to read the questions carefully and answer accordingly. I've already filled it and will keep my fingers crossed that this ludicrous by-law DOES NOT PASS. I also sent a very stern email to the city about it last year, hoping more people do that as well!!
 
I'm curious jjohnwm jjohnwm . In that link at the end is a step by step guide of where they are up to. It started with the "by-law review begins" in May of last year, and the latest part is their "public engagement" which takes part Jan-Feb this year, which I suppose is to gauge public opinion on this new bullsh.....err, legislation.

However, they also had a "public engagement" in August last year, and they have a big tick at the side of it, I presume meaning all went well. Surely there must have been public outcry back in August of last year when these new rules were publicised? Enough outcry to make them realise that they were on a hiding to nothing with this, and maybe ditch the whole nonsense.
The people WE elect seem to have forgotten that they are supposed to work for us. The ruling elite (as they think of themselves) in the US, UK, Canada apparently think we are too stupid to make decisions and are going to dictate to us what we should do. I just can't fathom how these people get continually re-elected.
 
I don't live in Winnipeg or Manitoba for that matter, but I just took the survey. I agree with having minimum housing laws as a requirement for big animals (including fish), but some of the premises (like social needs and coming from the wild to ban animals) are ridiculous!
Those would put a damper on pictus catfish and loaches (clearly not dangerous pets to own), because one, the other, and in some cases both applies to them. I would not like that if it applied to where I am, so I'll do what I can to prevent it from happening there.
 
There are certain realities…
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When I was a child my dad liked to keep Channa micropeltes. I grew up to the realities of the species. They were kept in customs made aquariums. Many are the experiences which I enjoyed. For instance, there was the lady in the neighborhood who was giving away swordtails. My dad of course was interested and accepted all which she gave. Her husband was quite disinterested until she asked my dad what he intended to do with so many swordtails. At which point he roared in laughter… My dad beat a hasty retreat.
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So it is, I’ve developed both a love for the swordtail, and a love for those which eat them.
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I often note that there is a certain reality which we who keep big fish must at some point face… What to do with our big fish when they outgrow our capacity to house them? For the lady with the swordtails it was giving them away. And the same was true for my dad.
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I eat a lot of fish. Mostly salmon and tilapia. Mostly.
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But I always advise that those who insist on keeping big fish to have a good recipe on hand.
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I line breed Amphilophus lyonsi. I can neither be absorbed in moral issues nor merciful if I am to maintain an attempt to keep this fish.
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I've kept and maintained Hygrophila polysperma. A species possibly more hated than the Snakehead. This, because I liked my Uaru amphiacanthoides very much, and I liked the H. polysperma very much. (What’s it to you… who have an opinion and sit in the seat of democracy? I say, "Death to your swordtails with a roar of laughter!" ;)
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Just a thought from a lover of the American republic.

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