I reused the media and canister from the old set up so I'm not sure why still need to cycle tank for so long. downgraded because it cost me way to much to maintain a 6 feet. I will upgrade again as they grow. Now all 3 of them are only at juvenile stage. I'm aware that Rays and aro need large tank as they grow so I will upgrade a year later when I move house.
newly bought Motoro stingray died ?
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I reused the media and canister from the old set up so I'm not sure why still need to cycle tank for so long. downgraded because it cost me way to much to maintain a 6 feet. I will upgrade again as they grow. Now all 3 of them are only at juvenile stage. I'm aware that Rays and aro need large tank as they grow so I will upgrade a year later when I move house.
Also test your water during growth of fish so that you may have to add more biomedia and increase wc's. Keep us updated.
Sounds like the drip method bumped up the bagged water back over 7 pH which would have turned all the accumulated ammonia during transport toxic.
Normally the carbon dioxide build up lowers pH so ammonia (NH3) becomes ammonium (NH4+) which is less harmful.
But you have other issues besides transport.
Normally the carbon dioxide build up lowers pH so ammonia (NH3) becomes ammonium (NH4+) which is less harmful.
But you have other issues besides transport.
You know I don't even think about this anymore. You are probably correct. The one that died was probably weak also.
The reason I don't think about this anymore is years ago when I was part time helping out at a lfs (corals and salt fish exclusively) Seachem had a rep there that showed us how to use prime during drip acclimation of pretty much anything(invert, fish) to prevent that exact situation. That really change the loss ratio of all the animals.
I don't really use it for anything else especially since I moved and am on a well now. Because of the well water now though I do more drip acclimation because of the very high ph and overall hardness.
0 nitrate is almost impossible to achieve because even your tapwater will have some
nitrates.
If you’re filtration was mature and working properly, the bacteria would convert ammonia to nitrite, then from nitrite to nitrate. Meaning you should have zero
ammonia and nitrites but some nitrate.
However, if you’re reading an elevated Ammonia level with no nitrites or nitrates, then the it would seem you’re filter isn’t fully cycled or you don’t have enough media for the amount of fish or size of tank.
nitrates.
If you’re filtration was mature and working properly, the bacteria would convert ammonia to nitrite, then from nitrite to nitrate. Meaning you should have zero
ammonia and nitrites but some nitrate.
However, if you’re reading an elevated Ammonia level with no nitrites or nitrates, then the it would seem you’re filter isn’t fully cycled or you don’t have enough media for the amount of fish or size of tank.
This right here ??
if you don’t have money to handle a 6’ aquarium, it’s not a good idea to get into rays. I have my rays in an 8’ aquarium and they make it small and they are only teenagers
also if you don’t know what the nitrate cycle is that is another bad idea to get into rays.
I am not the fish police by any means. But a 4’ tank is too small for any size of ray at any time. Even if all your filters were fully cycled, which it doesn’t sound like it or else you would not be reading ammonia and would have have some nitrates. As everyone else has already stated. I never recommend anyone get a ray with anything less than a 180g with a 6x2’ footprint. Not because I’m a jerk or I have high expectations, but because rays create huge bio loads for such small creatures. It is hard to manage such a big bio load on such a small tank. It will be easier to manage with more water volume.
if you are serious about keeping rays, check out the stickies in this section and they can help you with basic info that will help you out.
sry to hear about your ray, no worries try again when you come across one you like. for 4' tank would recommend getting a male, fems usually always grow bigger so just a heads up. i keep a 28" motoro fem + a 17" male in my 150g 4ft and they bred twice already. for now just see how your aro is doing before getting a new one. if it's a new tank then give it time but yes i agree w/ the comments on unhealthy ray & parameters. tbh though rays are extremely hardy & if it's healthy any tank within range of "normal" parameters will be alright + if the aro is good no need to switch anything for the new addition. gl hope it goes better next time around.
