About those fuel prices…

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Hello; Been seeing a possible gas tax reduction or gas card being considered with the goal of reducing fuel cost for consumers. As a purely short term patch such may help but with a built in long term extra cost. The basis of the extra cost long term has to do with what it costs a government to spend a dollar. If i, as an average Joe taxpayer, go to a gas station and spend a dollar on gas I am out that dollar. If a consumer spends a dollar on a government gas card or gets a dollar off gas tax that winds up costing the average Joe taxpayer more than a dollar.
What do i mean by that you may ask? Thing is the government is inefficient with our money in some respects. There are costs involved for government agencies to first collect money from us. More costs for whatever agencies to process the programs. Say for example a gas card becomes the method. There will be among the costs postage to mail out the cards. A tax holiday might save the postage but likely will not avoid other costs a government will incur with whatever method used.

I do not know if this is correct but recall reading that it can in some cases cost the government around $4 to spend $1. I have no confidence in that particular figure. This is one some of our members might be able to find out.

This next is not my thinking and is a comment I heard the last few days. Gas cards or tax holidays will encourage demand. It seems prices are high enough to have affected demand of late. So one of these schemes may cut three ways. Could give some commuters already on the edge a needed reprieve. May actually increase demand as some will drive more. Pretty sure either scheme will wind up costing average Joe taxpayer more in the long run. One thing either plan will not do is increase the actual supply of oil or gas.

I chose to use "average Joe taxpayer" for a reason. That being some are taxpayers while others do not pay any income taxes at all. My guess is all or nearly all will get a form of discount on the cost of gas. However, only average Joe taxpayers will be on the hook to pay the final costs. Gas taxes at the pump are truly even handed in that any and all who buy fuel pay the same amount.

By the way in my opinion a gas card or gas tax holiday is another policy decision. Go figure. Also does not change the current overall policy which has been to restrict the use of fossil fuels. As many may have figured my take is changing from the anti-oil policies into pro oil policies will be a much bigger help.
 
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The problem is that lots of rich democrats are heavily invested in oil companies and ammunition factories. They preach at us and hide their own nature. It’s an untenable situation in the long term, because this will be found out.

I invested in companies that make ammo and bombs as soon as the democrats won. The way they all talk about Putin it is clear that they want war.

You can’t claim you want peace and then stab at your enemy at every opportunity.

Maybe it’s not known that the Clintons own major interest in the explosives/gunpowder business?
 
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Precisely how should someone talk about Putin other than as a butcher who invaded another sovereign country and has killed tens of thousands of civilians?!

The problem is that lots of rich democrats are heavily invested in oil companies and ammunition factories. They preach at us and hide their own nature. It’s an untenable situation in the long term, because this will be found out.

I invested in companies that make ammo and bombs as soon as the democrats won. The way they all talk about Putin it is clear that they want war.

You can’t claim you want peace and then stab at your enemy at every opportunity.

Maybe it’s not known that the Clintons own major interest in the explosives/gunpowder business?
 
The problem is that lots of rich democrats are heavily invested in oil companies and ammunition factories. They preach at us and hide their own nature. It’s an untenable situation in the long term, because this will be found out.

I invested in companies that make ammo and bombs as soon as the democrats won. The way they all talk about Putin it is clear that they want war.

You can’t claim you want peace and then stab at your enemy at every opportunity.

Maybe it’s not known that the Clintons own major interest in the explosives/gunpowder business?
....apparently the top individual in that group is not invested in the oil industry or receives any kickbacks,hence his stated vow to go after and shut it down.
 
Sorry the assessment of the non-partisan fact-checker doesn't fit your narrative. Don't we all agree that we - as a country and world - need to move away from the fossil fuels that are at the root of climate change? Are you in favor of larger subsidies to oil companies (instead of smaller ones)?!

From the fact check (references here: https://www.politifact.com/factchec...trumps-claim-biden-said-he-would-abo/#sources)

Trump’s characterization of Biden’s position is vastly oversimplified, and he’s suggesting Biden doubled down on a stance he never took in the first place.

Biden wants to reduce the country’s reliance on oil by investing heavily in renewable energy, and he plans to pay for part of that investment by ending federal subsidies for oil companies. He doesn’t want to wipe out the oil industry as Trump claimed.

Some oil executives have even cheered Biden’s support for the development of technology that captures greenhouse gas emissions before they reach the atmosphere, allowing companies to safely burn fossil fuel for years to come.



You damned right I'll believe what I will.The man said it to a crowd of gushing supporters and it is recorded,now post that.I have nothing to do with the crap in your link.
 
Sorry the assessment of the non-partisan fact-checker doesn't fit your narrative. Don't we all agree that we - as a country and world - need to move away from the fossil fuels that are at the root of climate change? Are you in favor of larger subsidies to oil companies (instead of smaller ones)?!

From the fact check (references here: https://www.politifact.com/factchec...trumps-claim-biden-said-he-would-abo/#sources)

Trump’s characterization of Biden’s position is vastly oversimplified, and he’s suggesting Biden doubled down on a stance he never took in the first place.

Biden wants to reduce the country’s reliance on oil by investing heavily in renewable energy, and he plans to pay for part of that investment by ending federal subsidies for oil companies. He doesn’t want to wipe out the oil industry as Trump claimed.

Some oil executives have even cheered Biden’s support for the development of technology that captures greenhouse gas emissions before they reach the atmosphere, allowing companies to safely burn fossil fuel for years to come.
You can be sorry about whatever you want.The narrative is not mine,I referred to what I saw and heard come from between the man's two lips and I don't care about none of that other stuff you posted.
 
Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.

You can be sorry about whatever you want.The narrative is not mine,I referred to what I saw and heard come from between the man's two lips and I don't care about none of that other stuff you posted.
 
Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.
Call it what you want.I've already said more than I intended to,I'm out.
 
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