Hornet cichlid for 1700 gallon pond

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I would find something else, maybe some arowanas? Or Ripsaw Catfish? Irwini's Soilder Cats?
i will think about growing out a arowana. but i am afraid they are very sensitive
 
I would find something else, maybe some arowanas? Or Ripsaw Catfish? Irwini's Soilder Cats?
the ripsaw and Irwini's Soilder Cats can tear apart the pool liner
 
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I think in reality, nobody who has posted so far actually knows if it would work as they have never tried to mix a Butti in an enormous 1700 gallon pond like yours. We know it probably wouldn’t work in a 360G aquarium but that’s a mere puddle compared to a 1700G pond. I personally believe it would work as the Butti would have more than ample personal territory so it would mostly leave the other fish alone. Like everyone else however, I do not know for sure because my largest aquarium is a 125G.

I have personally seen very aggressive mbuna in my 4 foot 90G become model citizens in my six foot 125G tank so I think logically it would work. If anything, your Pacu when it gets close to 3 feet may decide to kill the much smaller but far more aggressive Butti.
 
I think in reality, nobody who has posted so far actually knows if it would work as they have never tried to mix a Butti in an enormous 1700 gallon pond like yours. We know it probably wouldn’t work in a 360G aquarium but that’s a mere puddle compared to a 1700G pond. I personally believe it would work as the Butti would have more than ample personal territory so it would mostly leave the other fish alone. Like everyone else however, I do not know for sure because my largest aquarium is a 125G.

I have personally seen very aggressive mbuna in my 4 foot 90G become model citizens in my six foot 125G tank so I think logically it would work. If anything, your Pacu when it gets close to 3 feet may decide to kill the much smaller but far more aggressive Butti.
i think the same . BTW i have a red bellied pacu not a black one. they usually max out at 2 feet
 
...the pacu will be much larger in height and even maybe in lenght and might be able to scare the buttekoferi. The RTC will be massive for it to bother... Am I correct...

I very much doubt it.


If I understood it correctly, I think he means that's what your fish will become if you put a hornet in with the other fish. :)

Yes, although those fillets are much neater than the ones you will likely wind up with.


the problem is the pond is so big and it looks empty so i wanna stock it with some cool fish like hornet cichlid

That's not a pond problem; that's a you problem.


I think in reality, nobody who has posted so far actually knows if it would work as they have never tried to mix a Butti in an enormous 1700 gallon pond like yours. We know it probably wouldn’t work in a 360G aquarium but that’s a mere puddle compared to a 1700G pond. I personally believe it would work as the Butti would have more than ample personal territory so it would mostly leave the other fish alone. Like everyone else however, I do not know for sure because my largest aquarium is a 125G.

I have personally seen very aggressive mbuna in my 4 foot 90G become model citizens in my six foot 125G tank so I think logically it would work. If anything, your Pacu when it gets close to 3 feet may decide to kill the much smaller but far more aggressive Butti.

I agree with this ^ up to a point; like most aquarium questions, the only truly accurate answer is that you won't know until you try.

A Butti is simply, like most cichlids, unpredictable in terms of how aggressive it will be...but it's a safe bet that it will be pretty feisty. Calling the enclosure a "pond" doesn't change the fact that it is, in reality, just a bigger puddle than most aquariums, but it's still a puddle. A Mbuna at 5 or 6 inches in a 125 doesn't seem too far in a proportional sense from a 15-inch Butti in 1700 gallons.

That fish is still going to require its territory. We've all likely seen large-ish fish tanks with one big mean fish occupying half or more of the tank, and the rest of the inhabitants crammed together in the other end or in a corner. Maybe this pond will be like that; if so, it doesn't sound very aesthetically pleasing. Or...maybe the fish will consider the whole vast body of water, all 1700 gallons, as its territory. That'll be even worse.

This is just another one of those threads...the ones where an aquarist just has to push the limits, gotta try balancing on the knife-edge of disaster just because. This size of tank, pond, whatever you call it, offers almost limitless possibilities for stocking all kinds of beautiful and interesting fish that will live peacefully together, without carnage. Why must it still be set up as a potential arena?
 
I very much doubt it.




Yes, although those fillets are much neater than the ones you will likely wind up with.




That's not a pond problem; that's a you problem.




I agree with this ^ up to a point; like most aquarium questions, the only truly accurate answer is that you won't know until you try.

A Butti is simply, like most cichlids, unpredictable in terms of how aggressive it will be...but it's a safe bet that it will be pretty feisty. Calling the enclosure a "pond" doesn't change the fact that it is, in reality, just a bigger puddle than most aquariums, but it's still a puddle. A Mbuna at 5 or 6 inches in a 125 doesn't seem too far in a proportional sense from a 15-inch Butti in 1700 gallons.

That fish is still going to require its territory. We've all likely seen large-ish fish tanks with one big mean fish occupying half or more of the tank, and the rest of the inhabitants crammed together in the other end or in a corner. Maybe this pond will be like that; if so, it doesn't sound very aesthetically pleasing. Or...maybe the fish will consider the whole vast body of water, all 1700 gallons, as its territory. That'll be even worse.

This is just another one of those threads...the ones where an aquarist just has to push the limits, gotta try balancing on the knife-edge of disaster just because. This size of tank, pond, whatever you call it, offers almost limitless possibilities for stocking all kinds of beautiful and interesting fish that will live peacefully together, without carnage. Why must it still be set up as a potential arena?
i never said "hey i am adding a 15 inch hornet cichlid to my 1700 HUGE pond"
i am just taking advice.
 
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