^ feral cats, not cereal cats lol that's what happens when i type too fast
Vegan /vegetarian fish food
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I was thinking of a breakfast cereal with cat head marshmallows in it or something
Thanks to a white-out snowstorm currently raging here, I was wasting more of my life this morning on the internet. I did some more reading on the OP's post history; I feel like one of those people rubbernecking at an accident scene on the highway...you feel bad for looking but it's so unbelievable that it's tough to take your eyes away...
I quickly lost track of the number of times I saw the term "rescue", along with a few explanations of how these assorted fish came from neglected tanks and were brought home to be saved, and how it was inherently bad to actually buy fish or other animals. The fish apparently couldn't be adopted out because there was nobody the OP considered qualified or capable of caring for them properly. The virtue signalling was so thick you could cut it with a knife.
I found this gem, which pretty much says it all:
When you're wielding a self-righteous hammer...everything looks like a neglected nail...
I quickly lost track of the number of times I saw the term "rescue", along with a few explanations of how these assorted fish came from neglected tanks and were brought home to be saved, and how it was inherently bad to actually buy fish or other animals. The fish apparently couldn't be adopted out because there was nobody the OP considered qualified or capable of caring for them properly. The virtue signalling was so thick you could cut it with a knife.
I found this gem, which pretty much says it all:
When you're wielding a self-righteous hammer...everything looks like a neglected nail...
Surely they must have realised whilst typing that out that they've just given the ultimate damning indictment of their own woeful care!! Unbelievable!
You don't think this is a bot do you by any chance, maybe a second phase one which almost seems legit, but not quite!
You don't think this is a bot do you by any chance, maybe a second phase one which almost seems legit, but not quite!
Rescue? More like... Under new management
"Good and happy" for fish does not involve replacing the animal protein in their diets with soy or whatever.
Fish that evolved to eat animal based protein can't even eat proteins outside their salinity level without long term harm.
We can sort of survive on plant based diets because we evolved to tank a lot of things that other animals can't, and we're able to supplement things we'd normally get from animals with our advancements in modern nutrition. We swim in diluted bleach, we put even more diluted bleach in our water, we constant spray chemicals that would give a bird pneumonia because it smells good... You can't translate human nutritional "research" to fish.
But on the note of us not needing meat... How do you think we as a species learned how to cook?
I always assumed it dated back to primitive hominids finding the carcasses of wildfire-killed animals. They wouldn't let a windfall like that go to waste, so they ate them...and likely decided they tasted pretty good...and then also likely noticed that the cooked meat lasted longer before spoiling. Who knows, maybe that was the impetus for learning to make and control fire?
Esox...did you have to raise the ugly spectre of bots, lol? I'm thinking it isn't. The OP is in Israel and it seems pretty clear that English is not his/her first language. There are plenty of grammatical and spelling errors...although not as many as are made by some who are native to the language!...whereas bots seem to have, if nothing else, at least perfect language skills. Unless...a newest-generation bot fakes those things in order to pass as human?!?!?
Whatever. If this is how a bot takes care of fish...then humanity has even more about which to worry than we realized...when/if the AI's take over the planet.
Still checks out... I definitely don't think we made fire to boil spinach back then lol
Wow so many replies!
I guess I'll start with the one person who actually stopped in order to ask me a question instead of just deciding al these nice stuff about me..
So
I guess I'll start with the one person who actually stopped in order to ask me a question instead of just deciding al these nice stuff about me..
So
Wow so many replies!
I guess I'll start with the one person who actually stopped in order to ask me a question instead of just deciding all these nice stuff about me..
So Backfromthedead, I'll awnser your Q and a bit more.
First of all, all of my fish are on a healthy diet compatible with theyr specie needs. And like you all mentioned and aware that means foods that contains meat. Am I'm going to change it? Only if I'll find evidence that it wont harm them and will keep them healthy.
This research is conducted here on the web, not on the fish. And it wont be unless like I said ,I'll find evidence that it's ok for them to do so.
It's really ok to have your opinions but I dont understand why you choose to create such an evil profile of me instead of just asking...
And about my rescues- I'm rescuing fish. Alot of them coming from horrible conditions. Goldfish and bettas from 5 l jars can be an example.. goldfish are going to a huge pond and bettas to planted tanks, filtered and heated of course. Another example can be Pangasius.. Hypopothalmus and Sanitwongsai .. each of them came for different kind of small untreated aquariums, 5 Hypopothalmus are now in a 4000l indoor heated pond, 3 Sanitwongsais in an 8000 one, just planning an upgrade for them to a really big, 25k pond. This wont be in my house, but in an animal sancurary I'm trying to cooperate with in order to improve they're life quality.
Cichlids, and others.. also from a huge masses of aquariums.. No water changes, no filters, and so..
some of the situations are from people who just upload a post saying: "throwing them to the toilet this evening, if anyone want to come and take them before be my guest"..even found a goldfish tank on the street once with black water inside...
Alot of the fish comes sick.. alot of others develope sickness a few days later.. is it because of my treatment? The conditions that they lived in before? The move itself? Idk.. sometimes it can be pretty clear and sometimes not..
Am I perfect? No.
Do I make mistakes? Yes of course..
But I'm really trying to do my best for them..
And yes english isn't my native, and no I'm not a bot
Well that's about me..
Now about Vegan diet.. again it's ok to have your opinions .. Humans and dogs are omnivores, that is a scientific fact.
Another scientific proven fact is that boths of them do "thrive" on a vegan diet, as in living a healthy and good quality of life ,living as much year as ones with meaty diets(sometimes even more) and has no decreased in average stamina or other physical abilities. You can check on the web for some vegan athletes and body builders and see for yourselves.
Cats on the other hand are in a less clear status for vegan diet. Research results can differ, and scientist and vets arent all on the same page about it. If youd ask me kittens should reciev a meaty diet, and with adults it makes sense to try vegan diets with a close vet monitor.. however I'm personally feeding mine a meaty diet.. waiting for research to come up with clearer results.
Oh and thank you RD for helping with this article, do you perhaps have a link for it?
I guess I'll start with the one person who actually stopped in order to ask me a question instead of just deciding all these nice stuff about me..
So Backfromthedead, I'll awnser your Q and a bit more.
First of all, all of my fish are on a healthy diet compatible with theyr specie needs. And like you all mentioned and aware that means foods that contains meat. Am I'm going to change it? Only if I'll find evidence that it wont harm them and will keep them healthy.
This research is conducted here on the web, not on the fish. And it wont be unless like I said ,I'll find evidence that it's ok for them to do so.
It's really ok to have your opinions but I dont understand why you choose to create such an evil profile of me instead of just asking...
And about my rescues- I'm rescuing fish. Alot of them coming from horrible conditions. Goldfish and bettas from 5 l jars can be an example.. goldfish are going to a huge pond and bettas to planted tanks, filtered and heated of course. Another example can be Pangasius.. Hypopothalmus and Sanitwongsai .. each of them came for different kind of small untreated aquariums, 5 Hypopothalmus are now in a 4000l indoor heated pond, 3 Sanitwongsais in an 8000 one, just planning an upgrade for them to a really big, 25k pond. This wont be in my house, but in an animal sancurary I'm trying to cooperate with in order to improve they're life quality.
Cichlids, and others.. also from a huge masses of aquariums.. No water changes, no filters, and so..
some of the situations are from people who just upload a post saying: "throwing them to the toilet this evening, if anyone want to come and take them before be my guest"..even found a goldfish tank on the street once with black water inside...
Alot of the fish comes sick.. alot of others develope sickness a few days later.. is it because of my treatment? The conditions that they lived in before? The move itself? Idk.. sometimes it can be pretty clear and sometimes not..
Am I perfect? No.
Do I make mistakes? Yes of course..
But I'm really trying to do my best for them..
And yes english isn't my native, and no I'm not a bot
Well that's about me..
Now about Vegan diet.. again it's ok to have your opinions .. Humans and dogs are omnivores, that is a scientific fact.
Another scientific proven fact is that boths of them do "thrive" on a vegan diet, as in living a healthy and good quality of life ,living as much year as ones with meaty diets(sometimes even more) and has no decreased in average stamina or other physical abilities. You can check on the web for some vegan athletes and body builders and see for yourselves.
Cats on the other hand are in a less clear status for vegan diet. Research results can differ, and scientist and vets arent all on the same page about it. If youd ask me kittens should reciev a meaty diet, and with adults it makes sense to try vegan diets with a close vet monitor.. however I'm personally feeding mine a meaty diet.. waiting for research to come up with clearer results.
Oh and thank you RD for helping with this article, do you perhaps have a link for it?
