Are you thinking about trying discus...

[Chadster72]

Honestly I don't believe you. How much and what do you feed?

The "straightjacket" tanks are used because discus need heaps of protein rich food to grow properly and avoid stunting. This makes a lot of waste even with flow.

Also impossible to get 0 nitrates really.

Mainly frozen cubes. Comboed

Honestly I don't believe you. How much and what do you feed?

The "straightjacket" tanks are used because discus need heaps of protein rich food to grow properly and avoid stunting. This makes a lot of waste even with flow.

Also impossible to get 0 nitrates really.

Frozen cube combinations mainly. 10 to 12 times a day. 1 gallon water changes in the 100g tank. Depending on how the schools are behaving. Shut off the current and thaw out the cubes. 4 to 5 times a day I turn on all pumps and blow the tank clean into the canister. Oscars got too aggressive and are going to a friend as a gift. And asking me a question is cool. Anytime. I don't believe you is borderline. So if you want too learn this, you gotta start over with those beasts. Raise the fish at the same age with schools numbering about 10. Chemical free. Not completely true. I may dump 1 mg of pure bacteria into my tank once a month MAX. I use a silly biowheel filter on top of the tanks with an h600 below. Cal Rob. Just bought those fish from him. 3 inches already. Lastly. Time. Watch your tank instead of hanging out at pb bar n grill, or If you want go to guava and ask who Chad is? If a baby fish gets exhausted. Shut off the current. Move it around. Turn on MAX. Turn off. Change a gallon. Etc. Even in the middle of the night. I overfeed now cause half my 100g tank is babies. Substrate is great for your tank with the live rock. I only buy a little bit of rock from LFS. Go to the river and find em, dry em out for awhile hose em off and decorate. Slate makes a good platform but will change your ph. I only add live rocks once every 3 months for decor. Any more questions. Here is a pic of my 11 year olds tank. Took him 2 years. It's got a baby pulcher and 500 gph current. One school of tetras(11), clown loach. 2 snails. One sail fin. 4 mollies from my pond.

 

[Chadster72]

Mainly frozen cubes. Comboed

Frozen cube combinations mainly. 10 to 12 times a day. 1 gallon water changes in the 100g tank. Depending on how the schools are behaving. Shut off the current and thaw out the cubes. 4 to 5 times a day I turn on all pumps and blow the tank clean into the canister. Oscars got too aggressive and are going to a friend as a gift. And asking me a question is cool. Anytime. I don't believe you is borderline. So if you want too learn this, you gotta start over with those beasts. Raise the fish at the same age with schools numbering about 10. Chemical free. Not completely true. I may dump 1 mg of pure bacteria into my tank once a month MAX. I use a silly biowheel filter on top of the tanks with an h600 below. Cal Rob. Just bought those fish from him. 3 inches already. Lastly. Time. Watch your tank instead of hanging out at pb bar n grill, or If you want go to guava and ask who Chad is? If a baby fish gets exhausted. Shut off the current. Move it around. Turn on MAX. Turn off. Change a gallon. Etc. Even in the middle of the night. I overfeed now cause half my 100g tank is babies. Substrate is great for your tank with the live rock. I only buy a little bit of rock from LFS. Go to the river and find em, dry em out for awhile hose em off and decorate. Slate makes a good platform but will change your ph. I only add live rocks once every 3 months for decor. Any more questions. Here is a pic of my 11 year olds tank. Took him 2 years. It's got a baby pulcher and 500 gph current. One school of tetras(11), clown loach. 2 snails. One sail fin. 4 mollies from my pond. View attachment 1274699

His tank used too be the hospital for my tank. And yes I mix water from all tanks

 

[Hendre]

1 gallon per day? That's hectically small and with 12 cubes of food a day that's a lot of waste with very little water change...

Of course oscars were aggressive in a 55, especially 2 of them...

Sounds like over filtration too. Never heard of the term "live river rock" in my life

 

[Chadster72]

1 gallon per day? That's hectically small and with 12 cubes of food a day that's a lot of waste with very little water change...

Of course oscars were aggressive in a 55, especially 2 of them...

Sounds like over filtration too. Never heard of the term "live river rock" in my life

1 gallon usually 5 or 6 times a dat.no. they weren't aggressive till 2 months ago. They ate my clown loach. I pet em everyday. Lol. They dont bite

 

[J. H.]

Those 1 gallon WC won't do much...

What frozen foods do you use?

These bacteria colonize any surface in the tank. You're paying money for something that happens naturally

Hendre , he is effectively running a 7gpd drip system, which is a lot. I'll see if I can alculate the numbers later. It also sounds that he is checking his numbers more than once a day, and I imagine if he finds something off...
It is a strange and inefficient wt of raising discus compared to what your friend is doing, but I don't see why it shoildn't work.

 

[Hendre]

It's not even 50% a week, compared to 50% 3-5x a week that most do...

 

[Chadster72]

Omg! How long are you going keep going on in a conversation with yourself? You have ruined at least five pages of what used to be a good thread. Please, stop posting a bunch of useless posts that are just taking up space and pages on this thread. Thank you

I apologize. For ruining your threads. Made a point to the admin guy who called me a liar. Not cool.

 

[JK47]

I apologize. For ruining your threads. Made a point to the admin guy who called me a liar. Not cool.

Derailing a thread and or spamming will not be tolerated. I will not clean up 100 messages again. No one called you a liar. Your comments towards staff need to stop, a staff member never even posted in this thread and we have no clue what you are talking about...

 

[Bluzepher]

Hi all.. Please understand this is not a rant but offered as hopefully helpful to those thinking about trying discus.. Many of the threads over the past few months echo the same questions and concerns so I thought, being a many times discus keeper but certainly not an expert, this might be helpful to some just getting started..
There are many great folks on this forum with lots of experience and info we all suggest that before you purchase any discus you read read read.. They are a wonderful fish to keep and while not as difficult to keep as some would think they do require more of a commitment than raising your average freshwater tropical.. So read here on this forum and simplydiscus, a forum devoted to this wonderful fish and then decide if you wish to make both the dollar and time commitment.. If yes... go for it.. and, while there are many different takes on raising discus, for the tank bred strains, I humbly suggest the following.
Discus are a social fish to thrive they need to be in groups of at least 4 or 5 (the bigger the group the better)or be a mated pair.. If you have 2 or 3 they eventually end up as 1.. They are cichlids afterall..
Allow 10 gallons per discus.. as adults they are big fish.. imagine a cd in your tank for each discus
Discus need warm clean water.. Most of us keep the temps between 82-84.
Clean water means lots of water changes.. As adults at least once a week 40%.. twice a week is better and more the norm.. as juvies every day or two is usually considered minimal.. juvies can easily become stunted from improper care..
There is a big difference between keeping adults and keeping juvies.. The adults require less feedings and therefore less water changes and can easily be placed in a planted tank.. the juvies require more feedings make bigger messes and therefore require more water changes which are not ideal for plants.. so bare bottom is the easiest way to go.
Discus are expensive sensitive fish.. if you are just starting I suggest a discus only tank with perhaps a bn and some tetras that can take the heat. Once you are experienced you may want to add other peaceful fish.. Lots of folks try different combos and it's difficult to know what will work in someones tank so always have a backup plan..
Quarantine tanks are essential.. they can be something as simple as a food safe plastic rubbermaid bin, heater and airstone/filter.. but anything going into a discus tank should be quarantined..
Try and if possible buy all your discus at the same time from the same breeder.. Unless you have an exceptional lfs in your area, I suggest you buy from a breeder.. preferrably in your local area so you can see the setup and pick your fish.. if none are available locally the sponsors section on simplydiscus lists them as well as feedback.. The folks here can help as well..

Really if you start with quality fish, a commitment to their care (water changes water changes water changes) and a love for the look of these graceful creatures gliding across your tank, you will have a wonderful discus keeping experience. If you are lucky enough to have a pair form and spawn it's an exciting thing to see.
I hesitated in writing this and hope I have not been too presumptuous or stepped on anyone's toes in offering this advice. It is merely meant to be advice as I know that many folks with experience do not respond to many beginner threads as they feel the op's often have not taken the time to investigate the info about these fish, and so why should they take the time to respond to their questions. Everyone has to start somewhere and I would hate to see folks discouraged from keeping these wonderful fish because they haven't been given a hand and answers to their questions.. Hope this helps someone and those of you with personal experience feel free to comment, add info etc.. HTH Sue

For further inquiries about the discus profile, please post them here. I made a separate thread to make it easier for us to sift through the information.
Added information can be found here.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2947077#post2947077

thank you for this info. much appreciated. am thinking of having discus after I retire and have more free time to properly care for them

 

[ryanstef]

where can i find any guides or links on how to take care of angel babies?